Prophecies in your religion

[FearGod]

And during any number of empires, poor people were used to build large buildings. In fact, it was common long before Mohammad.

So?

Which empires that were competing in constructing high buildings, have a look
to the world before 200 years ago and tell me who were competing in constructing
high buildings except if you mean they were competing before 2000 years ago and
the prophet predicts that they will compete once again in the future.

Just say I don't believe it but no need to make illogical excuses.

 

[Polymath257]

That isn't a prophecy, it's like saying I predict that the sun will rise at 4.00 O'clock.

Why is it not a prophecy? It accurately predicts the future. That it uses the known laws of nature to make its prediction only adds to its mystery, don't you think?

The main difference between this an most religious prophecies is that it is much more precise and descriptive and nobody can claim it happened if it doesn't.

 

[Polymath257]

Which empires that were competing in constructing high buildings, have a look
to the world before 200 years ago and tell me who were competing in constructing
high buildings except if you mean they were competing before 2000 years ago and
the prophet predicts that they will compete once again in the future.

Just say I don't believe it but no need to make illogical excuses.

It all depends on what you consider a 'high building' to be. There are a great number of ancient buildings that were considered to be 'high' at the time and where poor people competed for the jobs associated with building them.

Again, this happens in empires from the Egyptian, to the Roman, to the Byzantine, to the Abassid, to the Ottomans, etc.

 

[FearGod]

Why is it not a prophecy? It accurately predicts the future. That it uses the known laws of nature to make its prediction only adds to its mystery, don't you think?

The main difference between this an most religious prophecies is that it is much more precise and descriptive and nobody can claim it happened if it doesn't.

Did anyone said that humans will compete in constructing tall buildings
other than prophet Mohammad? exact date doesn't change the fact
that such thing happened.

I see it's like fooling ones self, even that things is so clear but just
some wish not to believe it, no need to make illogical excuses.

 

[FearGod]

It all depends on what you consider a 'high building' to be. There are a great number of ancient buildings that were considered to be 'high' at the time and where poor people competed for the jobs associated with building them.

Again, this happens in empires from the Egyptian, to the Roman, to the Byzantine, to the Abassid, to the Ottomans, etc.

Show me an evidence that they were competing in constructing high buildings,
high buildings means high buildings.

 

[Vinayaka]

I'm not saying about life today, but I'm saying about how a saying of 1500 years ago
that says we will see poor people competing in constructing high buildings aren't
interesting to you.

Sure. That's what you believe. I can't stop you, or convince you otherwise. It's not what I believe.

 

[Vinayaka]

What is the difference between modern man and gays, and why the gay need
an acceptance from you "modern man"

Modern man are those who have seen through intolerance and superstition, and have mentally left the middle ages of intolerance and bigotry.

 

[PruePhillip]

There are some recordings of what expected to happen in the future which
was mentioned during the message of Islam.

What prophecies you have in your religion.

I will start with one prophecy which says

the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, “And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].

Do you know anyone who expected the same before 1500 years ago?

Here's an old picture of some Emirates in the market and we can notice they were barefoot



And the Emirates are competing now in constructing high buildings

The main prophecy of the bible is the rise and fall of the Jewish nation and its relationship
to the coming Messiah. That is - there will one day be a Hebrew nation and monarchy but
it will end with the coming Messiah, who will be believed upon of the Gentiles.
A further prophecy is that in end times the Gentiles themselves will no longer believe in
their Messiah, and then the Jews will return to take back Jerusalem.

 

[Polymath257]

Show me an evidence that they were competing in constructing high buildings,
high buildings means high buildings.

Again, the Hagia Sophia was considered a high, large building. People competed for building jobs for pretty much all of history (except, of course, those who were slaves).

 

[InvestigateTruth]

There are some recordings of what expected to happen in the future which
was mentioned during the message of Islam.

What prophecies you have in your religion.

I will start with one prophecy which says

the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, “And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].

Do you know anyone who expected the same before 1500 years ago?

Here's an old picture of some Emirates in the market and we can notice they were barefoot

And the Emirates are competing now in constructing high buildings

So, do you think this Hadith indicates a sign that Hour is come, or it indicates Hour is near? How can you tell from this Hadith which one is intended?

 

[Tiberius]

There are some recordings of what expected to happen in the future which
was mentioned during the message of Islam.

What prophecies you have in your religion.

I will start with one prophecy which says

the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, “And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].

Do you know anyone who expected the same before 1500 years ago?

Here's an old picture of some Emirates in the market and we can notice they were barefoot

And the Emirates are competing now in constructing high buildings

It says, "tall buildings."

We can't conclude that they meant ONLY the huge tower skyscrapers we have today.

Besides, can you point out which skyscrapers were built by naked people?

 

[Neuropteron]

There are some recordings of what expected to happen in the future which
was mentioned during the message of Islam.
What prophecies you have in your religion.

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Ezekiel 58:23
"And I shall certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah".

 

[Clara Tea]

PROPHECIES OF THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE: The New Testament (Christian) bible, in a chapter called Revelation, says that if anyone attacks Iraq, they will suffer God's wrath. Revelation 15 (7 plagues, of which, COVID is one). In an era of super cures, it was unthinkable that the world could be gripped in fear of a pandemic (people wearing masks, businesses shut down), yet, prediction of God's wrath came true. Revelation also said who attacked Iraq. They would rise to the leadership of the most powerful nation in the world, and they would attack Iraq twice, and they were, according the bible, father and son. Their souls, according to the bible, came from the smokey bottomless pit of hell (apparently they were powerful enough to escape hell, and the bible described the smoke emanating from the pit). Revelation 17:18 revealed the Whore of Babylon as the nation that attacked Iraq. Revelation 17:4 says that the nation that attacked Iraq was known for sexual misconduct and decadent jewels, and mentioned pearls, specifically. I recall a first lady who repeatedly claimed to have a "simple pearl necklace." It's hard to pin anything of Satanic demons from hell,so scandals rolled off of them like water off a duck's back (Iran Contra, sex with Jennifer Fitzgerald, etc). Revelation 17:18 says that Iraq fell to a nation known as the Whore of Babylon because it corrupted (altered elections, forced them to stop wearing Burkas, military men raped their women then were hidden by the military to prevent legal recourse, while ******* children were raised w/o fathers, in a land that despises half-breed kids (especially American). It is a nation known for lies. A carpet bomb, dropped near a major city, was sworn not to have harmed any innocent civilians (leaving a 1/2 mile diameter hole). General Franks said "we are not in the business of counting casualties" and the news only reported American deaths while over a million Iraqis were slaughtered. Iraq was not attacked for anything that it did (it had no link to terrorism), but the motto was, "once we attack Iraq, we'll find evidence." No evidence was ever found. Torture camps were set up around the world to force false confessions (waterboarding in ice-water caused frostbite, gangrene, and amputations, and prisoners complained bitterly that they could have left a larger stump so they could have partial movement of their stump). Cuba was hoped to be immune from international treaties banning torture, but it was not, and now a president cannot travel to Canada without deportation to the Hague for war crime trials. Americans were spied on (phone, internet, through walls, etc., some of which was proven by Eric Snowden), and the CIA was tasked to rewrite forum posts (social media) to alter citizen's perceptions of reality. Ultimately, God will destroy all life, and the attack on Iraq set that in motion.

 

[FearGod]

Modern man are those who have seen through intolerance and superstition, and have mentally left the middle ages of intolerance and bigotry.

And why the gays need an acceptance and permission of what you call the modern man,
are they superiors.

 

[FearGod]

Again, the Hagia Sophia was considered a high, large building. People competed for building jobs for pretty much all of history (except, of course, those who were slaves).

Dishonest reply, this isn't an evidence that people used to compete in
constructing high buildings, try again.

 

[FearGod]

It says, "tall buildings."

We can't conclude that they meant ONLY the huge tower skyscrapers we have today.

Besides, can you point out which skyscrapers were built by naked people?

Naked and barefoot means they were poor people, and when you see these people
are competing in constructing the high buildings then it's a sign that the hour is nigh.
It's explainable, I can't even explain it much better.

 

[FearGod]

PROPHECIES OF THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE: The New Testament (Christian) bible, in a chapter called Revelation, says that if anyone attacks Iraq, they will suffer God's wrath. Revelation 15 (7 plagues, of which, COVID is one). In an era of super cures, it was unthinkable that the world could be gripped in fear of a pandemic (people wearing masks, businesses shut down), yet, prediction of God's wrath came true. Revelation also said who attacked Iraq. They would rise to the leadership of the most powerful nation in the world, and they would attack Iraq twice, and they were, according the bible, father and son. Their souls, according to the bible, came from the smokey bottomless pit of hell (apparently they were powerful enough to escape hell, and the bible described the smoke emanating from the pit). Revelation 17:18 revealed the Whore of Babylon as the nation that attacked Iraq. Revelation 17:4 says that the nation that attacked Iraq was known for sexual misconduct and decadent jewels, and mentioned pearls, specifically. I recall a first lady who repeatedly claimed to have a "simple pearl necklace." It's hard to pin anything of Satanic demons from hell,so scandals rolled off of them like water off a duck's back (Iran Contra, sex with Jennifer Fitzgerald, etc). Revelation 17:18 says that Iraq fell to a nation known as the Whore of Babylon because it corrupted (altered elections, forced them to stop wearing Burkas, military men raped their women then were hidden by the military to prevent legal recourse, while ******* children were raised w/o fathers, in a land that despises half-breed kids (especially American). It is a nation known for lies. A carpet bomb, dropped near a major city, was sworn not to have harmed any innocent civilians (leaving a 1/2 mile diameter hole). General Franks said "we are not in the business of counting casualties" and the news only reported American deaths while over a million Iraqis were slaughtered. Iraq was not attacked for anything that it did (it had no link to terrorism), but the motto was, "once we attack Iraq, we'll find evidence." No evidence was ever found. Torture camps were set up around the world to force false confessions (waterboarding in ice-water caused frostbite, gangrene, and amputations, and prisoners complained bitterly that they could have left a larger stump so they could have partial movement of their stump). Cuba was hoped to be immune from international treaties banning torture, but it was not, and now a president cannot travel to Canada without deportation to the Hague for war crime trials. Americans were spied on (phone, internet, through walls, etc., some of which was proven by Eric Snowden), and the CIA was tasked to rewrite forum posts (social media) to alter citizen's perceptions of reality. Ultimately, God will destroy all life, and the attack on Iraq set that in motion.

I read the revelations that you mentioned and I didn't find anything about Iraq.

 

[firedragon]

I'm spiritual not religious and there are no prophecies in my belief.

I would say your prophecy is not at all impressive because it doesn't qualify what high rise is (ie are we talking tall mud huts or skyscrapers?). And because it says the buildings would be constructed by barefoot naked Sheppards, not construction workers wearing safety boots etc

You dont have to believe in prophecy, of course not. Thats your prerogative. But you could understand sentences.

This does not say, or no one ever said that they will construct building "wearing no shoes or while naked". No one said they will construct barefoot. You inferred it into this sentence.

IT says "Wa antharal hufaathal auraathal aalatha". That does not mean "they will construct while wearing no shoes". It means "those who dont are barefoot will (prolonging/striving) to construct tallest buildings".

Even if you dont believe in some prophecy, dont misrepresent a sentence.

Cheers.

 

[firedragon]

There are some recordings of what expected to happen in the future which
was mentioned during the message of Islam.

What prophecies you have in your religion.

I will start with one prophecy which says

the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, “And if you see the barefoot, naked, shepherds of camels competing [for praise] in the construction of high-rise buildings, then this is from among the signs [of the Hour].

Do you know anyone who expected the same before 1500 years ago?

Here's an old picture of some Emirates in the market and we can notice they were barefoot

And the Emirates are competing now in constructing high buildings

Watch my friend. People will bring some of the most nonsensical arguments and inferences that would be hardest to imagine intelligent people would bring to this thread.

They won't even understand a future tense. Trust me.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Some Hindus do believe prophecies and we have one, but that is to happen after a long time - 425,000 years, i.e. at the end of this eon, Kaliyuga. The world will continue in its bad state for that much time when an avatara of Lord Vishnu will come to clear up all the mess.