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Prospective President Kamala Harris

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
If the APA tells degreed psychologists to knock off the arm chair diagnosing why are you doing it?
It doesn't matter how much you hate the man doing that **** has real world consequences.
The APA has lost all credibility, sad to say.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Yes, I do feel that part may not be as hefty a factor as portrayed. Afterall it's widely believed the last email thing Comey dropped sunk her ship, but all the conspiracy crap surrounding the Clintons.
And Harris isn't Hillary. She's got that going for her especially if she can unite the Left.
I'm sincerely gobsmacked that she probably won't unite women. I'm gobsmacked that no Democrat seems to be able to unite women against the GOP??
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
I can assure that I would have been shouting misogyny even if Trump had won against Biden or any white male. And there is still a possibility that the Democratic nominee will be a white man. It doesn't matter, it Trump wins misogyny and racism will be the reason why. Trump is running on a campaign of misogyny and racism.
Harris worked her way up the ladder of California politics by sleeping her way to the top. She was cute and ambitious gal and knew how to play the game. The expected DNC tactic is to cry misogyny and racism so Trump is inhibited from pointing out Harris's past and her approach to climbing the ladder. Her affair with the once powerful Willie Brown, helped to set her up. That may turn off women. Feminists were always turned off by pretty gals who could climb the ladders with their female charms.

The source of much of the criticism towards Kamala comes from her relationship with former California politician, Willie Brown. Willie was a mayor of San Francisco, elected in 1995, although he was speaker of the California State Assembly in the '90s when he and Kamala met. Kamala was an assistant prosecutor at the time. She was 29 years old, while Willie was 60, so their relationship definitely turned some heads.
Based on how the DNC Cabal threw out Biden, it appears Nancy Pelosi is the head of the Swamp snake. Although retired from office, her power comes from her funding raising prowess and all her powerful donor contacts in California, Washington and beyond. My guess is Kamala was chosen by Pelosi, for her donors, even as VP to Biden. Both women are from the Socialist Republic of California. Pelosi has the power to control Harris, since she knows what moves her gears. However, Harris may not play out well for the majority of the voters, once her past is made known, without any need for exaggeration.

For example, her radical views, which are now not very popular on mainstream America are all on the record, such as a tendency to free hardened criminals who did serious crimes. I saw an interview where she was cheer leading the destructive rampage of BLM. That may have played well in California, but may not in swing states. The tactic now is to deny and blame the dark truth of Harris on racist and sexist lies; deny and lie. I am curious what nickname Trump decides to use for Harris.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
When has "hatred" ever been a slur? A spade is a spade. I call em as I see em
I don't know if you're a woke-ist or not, but you've taken a page right out of the woke-ist handbook. When anyone criticizes any woke idea, a common response - one that you employed - is to deflect the criticism of the IDEA by branding the critic, which you did.
 

Soandso

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I don't know if you're a woke-ist or not, but you've taken a page right out of the woke-ist handbook. When anyone criticizes any woke idea, a common response - one that you employed - is to deflect the criticism of the IDEA by branding the critic, which you did.

Ok. Let's say he said something racist instead. Would you not call out that behavior?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
And so you would deny women the right to their own decisions, because you've decided yours is better -- and therefore better for everybody, in every circumstance.

What about lung cancer? Would you support curing that with your tax dollars for a person who started smoking in 1960, when nobody really understood the connection? Or would you say, "you can have treatment if you got it some other way than smoking?"
Yes, I'd deny many women the right to kill their babies.

As for your lung cancer thing, sorry but that was a bad example.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Harris worked her way up the ladder of California politics by sleeping her way to the top. She was cute and ambitious gal and knew how to play the game. The expected DNC tactic is to cry misogyny and racism so Trump is inhibited from pointing out Harris's past and her approach to climbing the ladder. Her affair with the once powerful Willie Brown, helped to set her up. That may turn off women. Feminists were always turned off by pretty gals who could climb the ladders with their female charms.
Just wait until you hear about Trump's sexual misdemeanors.
Or are you saying it's ok for a man to have more than one partner but not ok for a woman?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Frankly, I think its high time that the Dems actually forwarded someone who promotes a few Progressive ideas, rather than the "Republican-lite" that has been their norm since the Clinton era
Hey! Thanks for bringing up some actual policy ideas, hooray!

I'm interested in understanding what posters think specifically when they say "progressive"?

I can say that I think of universal healthcare, affordable higher education, higher minimum wages, that sort of thing.

But what I think is not truly progressive is the woke stuff like DEI and BLM and critical theory and policies based on "oppressed vs. oppressor" and so on.
 

Soandso

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i would, but yours is an apples to oranges comparison.

The point in question isn't whether or not the criticized action is itself racist or transphobic, the point in question is that you think that calling out said actions are "deflecting the criticism of the IDEA by branding the critic." So if guy starts spouting racist stuff and you would call that out, why is it all the sudden "deflecting" to do the same thing when people are being transphobic? What's the difference?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
The point in question isn't whether or not the criticized action is itself racist or transphobic, the point in question is that you think that calling out said actions are "deflecting the criticism of the IDEA by branding the critic." So if guy starts spouting racist stuff and you would call that out, why is it all the sudden "deflecting" to do the same thing when people are being transphobic? What's the difference?
Because criticizing / satirizing trans activists is not transphobic.
 

Soandso

ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
Because criticizing / satirizing trans activists is not transphobic.

Interesting. Where is the line between transphobia and criticizing trans activists in your world view? Like what specific lines do we have to cross to go from criticizing trans activists to just saying bigoted things?

Also, what are your thoughts on criticizing Kamala Harris as only being hired for the job of VP because she was a black woman?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Yes, I'd deny many women the right to kill their babies.
Okay, but just so you are aware, that displays a disinterest in freedom.
As for your lung cancer thing, sorry but that was a bad example.
Actually, no it isn't. You would deny women the right to abort an unwanted fetus (it's not a "baby" which is defined as "a very young child, especially one newly or recently born"), but for the most part (except in rape) the condition of pregnancy is brought on by one's own action. And so is cancer from smoking. Why should your tax dollars pay for one, and not the other?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Interesting. Where is the line between transphobia and criticizing trans activists in your world view? Like what specific lines do we have to cross to go from criticizing trans activists to just saying bigoted things?
In general I'd say that the activists push policy agendas, and criticizing policy agendas is not "phobic". In this case, activists have a "self id" policy agenda.

Also, what are your thoughts on criticizing Kamala Harris as only being hired for the job of VP because she was a black woman?
Hmmm, I'm not sure where this question came from but... that criticism is a falsifiable idea. It might be true, it might not. As I read your question, it's not really a criticism of Harris, it's more of a criticism of the Dem's selection process, correct?
 

Soandso

ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
In general I'd say that the activists push policy agendas, and criticizing policy agendas is not "phobic". In this case, activists have a "self id" policy agenda.

You're answers don't really apply to the questions I asked. Let's try again

Where is the line between transphobia and criticizing trans activists in your world view? Like what specific lines do we have to cross to go from criticizing trans activists to just saying bigoted things?

Hmmm, I'm not sure where this question came from but... that criticism is a falsifiable idea. It might be true, it might not. As I read your question, it's not really a criticism of Harris, it's more of a criticism of the Dem's selection process, correct?

Hmmm, this is my mistake. I could a done better to phrase the question. Since we are also on the topic of race, what are your thoughts on criticizing Kamala Harris by saying she was hired as a DEI pick for VP?
 
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