• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Prospective President Kamala Harris

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Trumps agenda is the moderate agenda. The dem platform is radical. It has been obvious for a while and at the debate he is not fit for office.

Not only is he fit for office, but the way he orchestrated the endorsement of Harris on his own proves that. It was a perfect handoff, and not even his staff knew it was happening until just before he announced his withdrawal publicly. The only thing he isn't fit to do right now is run both the government and a political campaign at the same time. He wasn't physically up to that kind of schedule. Donald Trump knew how to take time off and relax while he was in the White House. He watched a lot of cable news.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Trump is, in many ways, a reaction to this country's first black President. It's no coincidence the birtherism propaganda has been and is already being applied to Kamala Harris.
I never cared one way or the other about Obama, but I will say that to think of his two daughters waking up and probably running thru the White House did make me smile.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Trump believes the 2020 election was stolen yet I bet you call him a liar on that.
I would not make any accusations without evidence. And that is all I am asking you for, no more and no less.

But yes, you are correct. I am going to call Trump a liar when he says the 2020 election was stolen. And as evidence:

Several of Trump's close advisors and officials including Attorney General William Barr repeatedly informed him that there was no substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud. Barr publicly stated that the Justice Department had found no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the election.

Numerous campaign staffers reportedly told Trump that he had lost the election. For instance, his campaign manager, Bill Stepien, testified that he advised Trump to accept the loss.

Trump's own campaign data analysts provided information showing that he was unlikely to win, especially after the results from key states came in.

Trump's legal team filed numerous lawsuits challenging the election results, but the vast majority of these were dismissed by judges, including many appointed by Trump himself. These dismissals often highlighted the lack of credible evidence for claims of widespread fraud.

The January 2, 2021, phone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, where he pressured Raffensperger to "find" enough votes to overturn Biden's win in Georgia. Raffensperger and his team repeatedly told Trump during the call that his claims were based on false information.

Testimonies and documents presented by the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th Capitol attack have highlighted that many within Trump’s inner circle knew and informed him that the election was not stolen.


Here is a good book I recommend reading. A book written by the person hired by the Trump campaign to find evidence of fraud.

1721766095609.png





Now just like you knew me well enough to know that I would claim Trump was a liar, I know you well enough to predict that you will claim that all the evidence I have provided to support that claim is somehow still not enough.

But even you will have to admit that it is a great deal more evidence than you have provided to back up the claim you have made.

It is obvious it is a lie to all that had an objective look at Biden over the last year. She said he was fit to run, she had to know he was not, if not did they never interact?
Joe Biden, the person you claim unfit to be President has accomplished great things that show this is just not true.

The American Rescue Plan, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs act, the Chips and Science act, The inflation Reduction act. These are all things that Biden has accomplished

Under Biden’s administration, the U.S. economy had added millions of jobs and the unemployment rate had fallen to pre-pandemic levels. The GDP growth has been robust, and consumer confidence has improved with the administration’s economic policies.


You might not like it, but the evidence clearly shows that Biden is more than competent. More competent than Donald Trump has ever been at any point in his life.

No, you have not provided any evidence to back up either your claim that Biden is unfit, nor your claim that Harris has lied about it.
 
Last edited:

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Not only is he fit for office, but the way he orchestrated the endorsement of Harris on his own proves that. It was a perfect handoff, and not even his staff knew it was happening until just before he announced his withdrawal publicly. The only thing he isn't fit to do right now is run both the government and a political campaign at the same time. He wasn't physically up to that kind of schedule. Donald Trump knew how to take time off and relax while he was in the White House. He watched a lot of cable news.
Don't forget his many many many golf games.

And let's not forget how fast Trump is deteriorating mentally. I think we need to insist that we examine his underpants to make sure he's not wearing Depends.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Trump is, in many ways, a reaction to this country's first black President. It's no coincidence the birtherism propaganda has been and is already being applied to Kamala Harris.
I've seen some say race doesn't matter. If race doesn't matter....

Why was Obama pushed as the first "black" president? He was mixed race. Why single out one heritage over the other?

Why was Harris being pushed as the first black female VP?
And now being pushed as possibly the first Black female president? She too is mixed race.
Why not push her as the first female Asian VP and/or president?

Evidently race does matter quite a bit. Its being used to promote Harris.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Evidence that she claimed this?
Oh.. typo! I remember her saying that she's American Indian. In my mind I immediately associated that with Native American, but that doesn't change the fact that she's a race chameleon who uses race to her personal and political advantage.

Corrected my post.
 
Last edited:

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Trumps agenda is the moderate agenda. The dem platform is radical. It has been obvious for a while and at the debate he is not fit for office.
Trump's agenda is moderate for the American middle-class, and radical for the upper echelon and poor. Look closely at his agenda, and look deeply into the history of the US Gilded Age.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Oh.. typo! I remember her saying that she's American Indian. In my mind I immediately associated that with Native American, but that doesn't change the fact that she's a race chameleon who uses race to her personal and political advantage.

Corrected my post.
So she has an ego like 99.99999999% of the human race. I suppose all your heroes are saints then?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So she has an ego like 99.99999999% of the human race. I suppose all your heroes are saints then?
I have people, real or imagined, that I greatly admire and would like to emulate, but there is no such thing as heroes or saints in my book no more than villains and devils are.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Oh.. typo! I remember her saying that she's American Indian. In my mind I immediately associated that with Native American, but that doesn't change the fact that she's a race chameleon who uses race to her personal and political advantage.

Corrected my post.
Doh! Perhaps you could consider correcting it again? She is "Indian American" because her mother is from India! Maybe you are confusing her with Elizabeth Warren? You may be mixing up your right wing talking point memes.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
It is obvious it is a lie to all that had an objective look at Biden over the last year. She said he was fit to run, she had to know he was not, if not did they never interact? Trump believes the 2020 election was stolen yet I bet you call him a liar on that.
Is massively delusional better?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
It is obvious it is a lie to all that had an objective look at Biden over the last year. She said he was fit to run, she had to know he was not, if not did they never interact? Trump believes the 2020 election was stolen yet I bet you call him a liar on that.
Yes IMO they knew Biden mentality was declining but may have thought/hoped he could at least hang in there until after the election. They tried to make excuses(its just a cold) to cover it but in the end it was too obvious to try to cover anymore. They finally startd acknowledged it, they really had no choice.
So IMO Biden against his wishes dropped out when so many donors, colleagues, and friends where turning against him.

Now to Trump. Do you think he is mentally fit to be president for the next four years if he wins?
I don't at all.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I've seen some say race doesn't matter. If race doesn't matter....

Why was Obama pushed as the first "black" president? He was mixed race. Why single out one heritage over the other?

Why was Harris being pushed as the first black female VP?
And now being pushed as possibly the first Black female president? She too is mixed race.
Why not push her as the first female Asian VP and/or president?

Evidently race does matter quite a bit. Its being used to promote Harris.

Race doesn't matter in that anyone from any race is capable of being a good American leader.

Race does matter because of the history of abuse people in minority groups based on things like skin color have suffered and the lack of diversity in American politics.

So, race doesn't matter because there's nothing about this concept of "race" that should make any difference, but it does matter because American history and modern sentiments have made "race" a factor that needs consideration in order to avoid making the American promise of liberty and justice for all an empty one.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Not only is he fit for office, but the way he orchestrated the endorsement of Harris on his own proves that. It was a perfect handoff, and not even his staff knew it was happening until just before he announced his withdrawal publicly. The only thing he isn't fit to do right now is run both the government and a political campaign at the same time. He wasn't physically up to that kind of schedule. Donald Trump knew how to take time off and relax while he was in the White House. He watched a lot of cable news.
The spin here is dizzying.
 
Top