Prospective President Kamala Harris

[sun rise]

I'd love to see a debate between her and Trump.

We'll see if Trump now bails on the 2nd debate that had been scheduled.

 

[RestlessSoul]

I don't think we're discussing the same thing.
I addressed speculatively blaming misogyny for Harris's loss.
You're addressing Trump's faults.

These are what bookmakers call related contingencies.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

However, practicality really does suggest her running mate should be a governer, one from a swing state -- and male! Which sadly rules out Gretchen Whitmer. She'd give JD Vance a run for his money, I can confidently say.

I like Whitmer. As for the rest, while Buttigieg has never been a governor, he ...

is an American politician and former naval officer who is serving as the 19th United States secretary of transportation. A member of the Democratic Party, he was the 32nd mayor of South Bend, Indiana, from 2012 to 2020, which earned him the nickname "Mayor Pete".​

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Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard College and the University of Oxford, attending the latter on a Rhodes Scholarship. From 2009 to 2017, he was an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant. He was mobilized and deployed to the War in Afghanistan for seven months in 2014. [source]​

 

[Copernicus]

I became a women over the weekend so now I’m representing a new constituency!

A singularly pluralistic constituency!

 

[Copernicus]

We'll see if Trump now bails on the 2nd debate that had been scheduled.

Trump doesn't do debates. He does Gish gallops. The debate opponent has to deal with a torrent of braggadocio, misrepresentations, lies, and taunts.

 

[Copernicus]

I like Whitmer. As for the rest, while Buttigieg has never been a governor, he ...

is an American politician and former naval officer who is serving as the 19th United States secretary of transportation. A member of the Democratic Party, he was the 32nd mayor of South Bend, Indiana, from 2012 to 2020, which earned him the nickname "Mayor Pete".​

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Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard College and the University of Oxford, attending the latter on a Rhodes Scholarship. From 2009 to 2017, he was an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant. He was mobilized and deployed to the War in Afghanistan for seven months in 2014. [source]​

I like Whitmer, too, but Buttigieg isn't going to deliver any electoral votes or draw voters away from Trump. He can't even deliver his home state of Indiana. What do you think of Josh Shapiro? Pennsylvania is must-win for the Democrats. Michigan is almost as important.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Links?
You tempt me with political drama, but you don't deliver.

I'm a tease.

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[metis]

Do you think we will?

I don't know but let me just say Trump better think about debating her.

Oh, wait a minute, I put "Trump" and "think" into the same sentence!!!

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I like Whitmer, too, but Buttigieg isn't going to deliver any electoral votes or draw voters away from Trump. He can't even deliver his home state of Indiana.

You mean like Kamala delivered her home state to Biden?

What do you think of Josh Shapiro? Pennsylvania is must-win for the Democrats. Michigan is almost as important.

I think he would be an excellent choice.

I suspect that exceedingly few people vote for the VP, i.e., the

I was gonna vote MAGA or not vote at all,
but. now that they've chosen a local boy/girl, I'm all in​

voting block is likely insignificant, and all of the VP contenders will work their bottoms off to defeat MAGA/Project-2025.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I like Whitmer, too, but Buttigieg isn't going to deliver any electoral votes or draw voters away from Trump. He can't even deliver his home state of Indiana.

Mind elaborating a bit on that? I don't know a heck of a lot about Buttigieg, but from what I've seen of him, he's well-spoken, capable of delivering information in a deliberate and palatable manner, and focused on facts. His delivery seems to typically either shut up his opposition or make them look foolish. Harris and Buttigieg would easily engance the perception that Trump and Vance are immature children.

His name is also more recognizable than Shapiro.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Which policies and ideas in particular are you opposed to? I mean, it hasn't been her platform for a full 24 hours yet.

Can't we go one her record and her stances to date? She did run for president before. How about the border mess, I disagree with her on abortion, I disagree on her stance on green energy, I did agree on her tax policy, I disagree with her stance on Gaza, I disagree on her cash bail and minimum sentence abolition for starters. She also wants to decriminalize illegal border crossings.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

FWIW, if you tell me that her gender and ethnic heritage has nothing to do with your upcoming vote, I'm more than willing to take you at your word. I'm also more than willing to expect you to repudiate any sexist and/or ethnic slurs issued by those you support.

Not all are like you.

Like which ones?

 

[LuisDantas]

I remember similar questions before Obama was elected. Then it was racism. Now it's gender. Obama proved that the right candidate can win in spite of not being white. Harris can do the same with gender.

Many people said they wanted an alternative to Biden and Trump. Now their wish has been fulfilled. Harris is female and young. It's up to her to make the case to the disaffected that she's a better choice.

I quite agree.

On the other hand, my memories of the time strongly suggest that there wasn't anything near this current level of beligerance and attempts at character assassination and other unethical practices against the Democrats back then.

It is possible that the Obama Presidency ruffled feathers that never quite learned how to behave in a civilized community and may take a long time to learn better. It may be truly impossible to achieve their trust and cooperation, depending on the specific motivations and fears of that contingent. We may have a genuine need to simply protect ourselves from their most destructive actions and wait a few decades until some of them learn better and we end up simply outliving them overall.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

My morning NYT email alerted me to the following piece in the Sacramento Bee:

Kamal Harris can beat Donald Trump and prove America is ready for a female president | Opinion​

the central question posed being: "But do Americans share enough disgust over Trump this year to forget their traditional misogyny when it comes to the top job?

We can expect more than enough sexist and misogynistic attacks (here as well as elsewhere) against "DEI Harris." Let's hope that this serves only to amplify the breadth and depth of the disgust over the MAGA-Project 2025 team.

Why do dems trust her or your party? The media, Kamala and the dem party has lied to you for a long time about Biden's condition until 1 second prior to the debate. The debate exposed their lies and now you trust her to be president?

 

[Copernicus]

I like Whitmer, too, but Buttigieg isn't going to deliver any electoral votes or draw voters away from Trump. He can't even deliver his home state of Indiana.

Mind elaborating a bit on that? I don't know a heck of a lot about Buttigieg, but from what I've seen of him, he's well-spoken, capable of delivering information in a deliberate and palatable manner, and focused on facts. His delivery seems to typically either shut up his opposition or make them look foolish. Harris and Buttigieg would easily engance the perception that Trump and Vance are immature children.

I agree that he is well-spoken, but the election is not going to be won merely by pointing out that Trump and Vance have a lot of baggage. Unfortunately, he would do little to attract new voters to the Harris campaign, but he would do more to rally Trump's base, given his sexual orientation and same-sex marriage. Harris already has to contend with misogynistic and racial attacks in social media. That would be more of a distraction than a help during news cycles.

His name is also more recognizable than Shapiro.

Granted, but Buttigieg has also never won any election other than mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He never even held a statewide office in Indiana, and I doubt that he could win an election there. He has been a great Transportation Secretary, but that is not an elective office.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm a tease.

Trump stokes 'birther' conspiracy theory about Kamala Harris

The US president fuels a fringe idea, echoing his past baseless claims about Barack Obama's origins.

www.google.com

Earth Monroe on Instagram: "I’m dumping some big cracked phone receipts today.."

399 likes, 53 comments - earthmonroe on October 9, 2023: "I’m dumping some big cracked phone receipts today..".

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I feel better now.

 

[sun rise]

You mean like Kamala delivered her home state to Biden?

There are possibilities for VP who have a track record of winning in red states. In the 2024 environment that counts for a lot in my book.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I agree that he is well-spoken, but the election is not going to be won merely by pointing out that Trump and Vance have a lot of baggage. Unfortunately, he would do little to attract new voters to the Harris campaign, but he would do more to rally Trump's base, given his sexual orientation and same-sex marriage. Harris already has to contend with misogynistic and racial attacks in social media. That would be more of a distraction than a help during news cycles.

Granted, but Buttigieg has also never won any election other than mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He never even held a statewide office in Indiana, and I doubt that he could win an election there. He has been a great Transportation Secretary, but that is not an elective office.

Thanks for the info!

I guess for me the best argument is that he's never held elected office. But I also need to consider that neither had Trump before 2016. Republicans making that argument would have to contend with that.

I think anyone who wouldn't vote for him based on sexual orientation aren't likely voting Democrat anyway, but there may be a lot of Independents and gay or ally conservatives who might be swayed.

Well, whatever happens, I hope the entire situation was the right move. I have no interest in another Trump term.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I feel better now.

I aim to please.

 

[sun rise]

I feel better now.

This post makes me feel better because of its content:

As a minion of the aliens who are using chemtrails, vaccines and secret drugs in food and drink to take over using her as a stalking horse, I'm thrillled that she's one of us. One of us. One of us. Gooble gobble. One of us. And as King Théoden led the Rohirrim to the aid of Gondor at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, Harris will lead the charge into our glorious future where the real illegal aliens will rule.