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Question about Satanism

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Azzas_Knight

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I was wondering. You're all Satanist's or people who worship beings like that right? How do you think Satan looks/ generally acts? (I'm just curious, so if you want to entirely ignore this you can.)
... (One more question) and do you think of him as Evil or Good?
 
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DianeVera

Member
Azzas_Knight said:
I was wondering. You're all Satanist's or people who worship beings like that right? How do you think Satan looks/ generally acts? (I'm just curious, so if you want to entirely ignore this you can.)
... (One more question) and do you think of him as Evil or Good?
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For my own answer to some of the above questions, please see the following article of mine: Satan and "Evil" in Christianity (and Satanism).
 
darkenedheart11

darkenedheart11

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Azzas_Knight said:
I was wondering. You're all Satanist's or people who worship beings like that right? How do you think Satan looks/ generally acts? (I'm just curious, so if you want to entirely ignore this you can.)
... (One more question) and do you think of him as Evil or Good?
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First of all, The term "Satan" is just a Hebrew word that means "adversary", thus I use the name with more originality, which is Lucifer. It doesn't really matter.

Lucifer can most likely take the form of anyone or anything he wants, but I'm sure that he has an original form. No he is not red with horns growing out of his head and no he doesn't carry a pitchfork. You know some people actually believe this? Why would he need one anyway? Hay wouldn't last two seconds in Hell...Okay getting serious now, Satan usually appears in the form of what most people would perceive to be angelic, just without the wings. According to most sightings and some of what I believe to be my own, he has appeared in a white robe. His hair is usually blonde, very masculin and he is quite the handsome looking fellow (just saying because it's true...no funny stuff). His presence is god-like (though I believe him to be a god himself) and magnificent in a 1000 ways. He raidiates his authority and power, rendering the beholder speechless.

As for his personality and/or the way he acts. It can hardly be explained in three dimensional terms. imagin someone that knows everything there is to know about everything, and if there is something that he doesn't know, he has the knowing capability of knowing it. Think of someone who has, or can find, all the answers and solutions in the universe. You can imagin the ego of someone who had these qualities. His mind reflects too much to explain in an understanding way. Lucifer has a mission(s) or goal(s), and every action he takes is critical to the perfection and fulfilment of that mission(s). Each and everything he does is thought out to perfection before it is done, as well as the outcome, all being for the greater good, and the completion of that mission(s). He doesn't act a certain way. Acting is something he cannot be judged of, and very few things can he be judged of.

Do I think of him as good or evil...First of all I believe that most if not all spiritual beings have the capabilities of both good and evil. Good cannot exist without evil and evil cannot exist without good. They are interdependant, therefor eleminating the dualistic idea of good vs. evil. There cannot be one supreme good force or one supreme evil force, for they both exist as a whole, as one. If all evil was to disapear, then it would create a universal imbalance, and all therin would cease to exist. Lucifer as well as Jehovah/Yahweh use both good and evil for the greater good of their perpous(') or mission(s)/goal(s).

I hope this gives you a better mental picture of the ineffable Lucifer.
 
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DianeVera

Member
darkenedheart11 said:
According to most sightings and some of what I believe to be my own, he has appeared in a white robe. His hair is usually blonde, very masculin and he is quite the handsome looking fellow (just saying because it's true...no funny stuff).
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Where do you get your information about "most sightings"? Are you referring to people in the Joy of Satan group and its various "Spiritual Satanist" dissident spinoffs, or are you referring to other sources too?
 
darkenedheart11

darkenedheart11

Member
DianeVera said:
Where do you get your information about "most sightings"? Are you referring to people in the Joy of Satan group and its various "Spiritual Satanist" dissident spinoffs, or are you referring to other sources too?
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Actually I am unfamiliar with the Joy of Satan group, but the title does ring a bell, and it does sound most interesting. I get my information from as many places as I can. Mostly from people who have claimed to have been in the presence of Lucifer and have actually seen him. I have noticed connections in various websites and people leading me to my solution. I have talked with some people in person, not all of them being Satanists, and there were reliable connections. Of course there were also the tales of the horrible beast like forms, but there was just more evidence pointing me in the other direction. I'm not saying that I am entirely correct and I apologize if I made it seem like I was stating facts. These are only my beliefs, my facts, nothing more.

Here is my own personal evidence. When I was a young boy around 8 or 9, my best friend told me the next day at school that last night he had seen someone appear at the foot of his bed. He said that he looked really cool (speaking in 9 year old terms) and had blonde hair and he was wearing a white suit. He said that he thought he was God because he was 'glowing'. My friend asked him who he was and he said that his name was lucifer, after that he said he got scared and covered up his head, and when he looked back out he was gone. Of course it's possible that my friend was full of s*** and didn't know what the hell he was talking about, but it's just something that has always stuck in my head and that I believe was true. Also, Lucifer appeared to me in a lucid dream I was having when I was 15 to give me guidance because I was having a lot of issues at that time and life was really hard. I know it was him because I asked him who he was and in the dream he appeared as a slightly muscular dark blonde man wearing a white robe. Other than his radiants, he looked pretty human. Yet again this could have been just a creation of my mind and nothing more. There is really no way to provide absolute proof of what he looks like. Maybe he just appears to me the way he wants me to see him. *shrugs* We may never know.

When it comes down do it, I don't think it really matters what he looks like, just as long as he exists, and fulfills his perpous in existence.
 
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DianeVera

Member
darkenedheart11 said:
Of course there were also the tales of the horrible beast like forms, but there was just more evidence pointing me in the other direction.
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There are also plenty of other possibilities as to what He might look like too. As you said earlier, He can take a variety of forms. Anyhow, thanks for sharing your story.
 
darkenedheart11

darkenedheart11

Member
DianeVera said:
P.S. It's good to meet another theistic Satanist here. Welcome to this forum, darkenedheart11.
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Indeed, we are on the endangered species list. I just can't understand the concept of Lucifer not being real. Thats ridiculous to me, almost humorous. The self is capable of many things but some things you just know aren't coming from within. I completely respect their laws of life and follow many of them, but that part...just doesn't make sense to me. The spirits that I see, when I see them, are just like seeing other people walk by, except they are spirits. My mind doesn't create the people and make them walk by, and my mind for damn sure doesn't create the spirits when they go by. To say you don't believe in spirits is almost the same as saying you don't believe in other humans besides yourself and that other humans are just creations of your mind. To say that Satan doesn't exist, is almost the same as saying President Bush doesn't exist. Hah.

I'm a lune. I know.
 
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DianeVera

Member
darkenedheart11 said:
Indeed, we are on the endangered species list.
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Though there still aren't very many of us, I wouldn't exactly call us an endangered species. Theistic Satanism is growing as an organized subculture, at least online, though we still have quite a bit of catching up to do in terms of real-world organization.
 
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amylong

Member
I don't think I understand why you would value that which is evil? As opposed to merely acknowleging the evil in the world and working to overcome it.

Just asking....


--Amy
 
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Era

Member
amylong , it depends what you call evil . In our days evil means everything that gives to a lot of people fear . But evil , just as good are not terms that are absolute , both good or evil are being described deferently in many cultures and religions . I see that you represent the Universal Life Church , wich makes me think that you apreciate life , so does satanism in every aspect of it . So , what the rest of the world call evil , we call life.
 
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betweenangelsandinsects

Member
I am a new member and I am and will remain Catholic. Could some one explain to me the basic idea of satanism. Though I am not going to be converted under any cirmcumstance ever, I would like to have a better understanding of it and the beleifs of the people who worship the fallen angel as if he were God. So someone please post the beliefs of followers and why they beleive it.

Thanks
Betweenangelsandinsects
 
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Era

Member
betweenangelsandinsects , regarding satanism , you have the theistic and the modern one , in every subforum you have there explained the basis of those two major paths of satanism . The one that you seem to know better is the theistic one , most known to christian`s believes .
 
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