Question For The Group

[Shadow Wolf]

I agree, and I would also add that to say DEMOCRATS are more democratic is without any truth to it as well. Folks, we are being played.

I didn't say they were. Both sides have their individuals within the party that do not act very democratic but parties in general are democratic. There are many republicans that I would support over the other party and the same about some democrats.

Which party supports an insurrectionists who has told many lies about the election? This "they're both just as bad" thing is nonsense. As it stands, only one party is fronted by someone who tried very hard to overthrow an election.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

I will assume the death stab is a reference to the vaccination for covid which was pushed through by trump along with drinking bleach. As soon as you use the reference stupid cow you lose all credibility. Trump has lost credibility from his stupid references.

When you reference Trump advocating drinking bleach you lose all credibility.

Trump Didn't Tell People to 'Inject Bleach' for COVID-19. But Here's What He Did Say

Trump's confusing remarks near the start of the coronavirus pandemic were revived during the 2024 presidential campaign.

www.snopes.com

 

[Kathryn]

Which party supports an insurrectionists who has told many lies about the election? This "they're both just as bad" thing is nonsense. As it stands, only one party is fronted by someone who tried very hard to overthrow an election.

Oh well, I am not voting for either party so there's that. I am not in a swing state and since my vote will not make a significant difference anyway, I will write in a candidate.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Trump and he was president when the death stab was created.

It's not a death stab, it's a legit vaccine that is highly effective like other vaccines.

 

[Kathryn]

It's not a death stab, it's a legit vaccine that is highly effective like other vaccines.

It sure didn't keep me from getting COVID. And I was "vaccinated" three times.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

the Democrats have said they are defending democracy but their anointing harris as their candidate is decidedly not democratic

So, following their rules for selecting their nomination is not democratic?
Don't forget, Biden was only merely the presumed nominee and he never actually officially become the Democrat candidate.

 

[LuisDantas]

If you're worried about democracy you can't vote Democrat. They have been any thing but democratic

In which world? Or compared to who? Definitely not the Republican Party, and categorically not Trump or MAGA.

 

[Bear Wild]

Please give references. Thanks.

References for which part or all?

 

[Kathryn]

References for which part or all?

Any references for any part would be great. But I would especially love to see references stating that Trump said to drink bleach.

 

[Bear Wild]

I have invested my money in western NY land vs. the stock market. My returns have been impressive. Land is the deal - they do not make it any more lol. I think @Revoltingest would agree. I am so blessed!

Now you have me definitely tempted.

 

[sun rise]

Read my response to your question in a thread started by @Clizby Wampuscat who asks the same question here: Where are Harris's positions?

 

[Bear Wild]

When you reference Trump advocating drinking bleach you lose all credibility.

Trump Didn't Tell People to 'Inject Bleach' for COVID-19. But Here's What He Did Say

Trump's confusing remarks near the start of the coronavirus pandemic were revived during the 2024 presidential campaign.

www.snopes.com

You were right this is what took place, President Donald Trump took to the White House briefing room and encouraged his top health officials to study the injection of bleach into the human body as a means of fighting Covid. It was someone who believed in the president that drank the bleach.

 

[Spice]

Codifying Roe v Wade is one

I may be way off, but I see her as taking time to hear what the people want and mediating the other two branches for that achievement, within her party's platform, rather than HER wants. Isn't that a refreshing, and very old fashioned, take on the office of the Presidency?

 

[Bear Wild]

When you reference Trump advocating drinking bleach you lose all credibility.

Trump Didn't Tell People to 'Inject Bleach' for COVID-19. But Here's What He Did Say

Trump's confusing remarks near the start of the coronavirus pandemic were revived during the 2024 presidential campaign.

www.snopes.com

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous -- whether it`s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn`t been checked, but you`re going to check it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you`re going to test that too. Sounds interesting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`ll get to the right folks who could.

TRUMP: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you`re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds interesting to me.

 

[Spice]

So, following their rules for selecting their nomination is not democratic?
Don't forget, Biden was only merely the presumed nominee and he never actually officially become the Democrat candidate.

And Kamala was the presumptive VP candidate, so she was already on the presumptive ticket.

 

[Bear Wild]

Which party supports an insurrectionists who has told many lies about the election? This "they're both just as bad" thing is nonsense. As it stands, only one party is fronted by someone who tried very hard to overthrow an election.

There were republicans appalled at the insurrection and participated in the investigation. The problem for the republicans is that Trumps popularity as a populist for the people has made massive changes in the republican party allowing extremists to take hold because anyone who complements him is elevated.

 

[Pogo]

The republican party in Texas where I live are carefully working to restrict voters in the state that might support democrats. They are working intentionally on changing districts to favor republicans. Restricting voters is of course a very democratic idea which is why democrats are not democratic. Changing the will of the voters in the last election which the republican party tried was another shining example of democracy. Who cares what the people think they want we know better say the democratic republicans. Give the leader unreproachable control with absolute immunity so they can override the will of the people. Restrict rights of people when it comes to their own health, what an excellent democratic idea. Those damn democrats just aren't very democratic compared to the righteous republicans who know that god is only on their side.

As was so poignantly said. "The peasants are revolting"

 

[Pogo]

Just wanted to say that Austin is one of my favorite towns in America. Ithaca NY is my second fav

Ithaca is Gorges.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It sure didn't keep me from getting COVID. And I was "vaccinated" three times.

No vaccine is 100%. Your "'vaccine'" remark just shows you should probably learn a little bit about this.

Vaccine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Limitations to their effectiveness, nevertheless, exist.[25] Sometimes, protection fails for vaccine-related reasons such as failures in vaccine attenuation, vaccination regimens or administration.[26]

Failure may also occur for host-related reasons if the host's immune system does not respond adequately or at all. Host-related lack of response occurs in an estimated 2-10% of individuals, due to factors including genetics, immune status, age, health and nutritional status.[26] One type of primary immunodeficiency disorder resulting in genetic failure is X-linked agammaglobulinemia, in which the absence of an enzyme essential for B cell development prevents the host's immune system from generating antibodies to a pathogen.[27][28]
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Those who are older often display less of a response than those who are younger, a pattern known as Immunosenescence.[35] Adjuvants commonly are used to boost immune response, particularly for older people whose immune response to a simple vaccine may have weakened.[36]

The efficacy or performance of the vaccine is dependent on several factors:

• the disease itself (for some diseases vaccination performs better than for others)
• the strain of vaccine (some vaccines are specific to, or at least most effective against, particular strains of the disease)[37]
• whether the vaccination schedule has been properly observed.
• idiosyncratic response to vaccination; some individuals are "non-responders" to certain vaccines, meaning that they do not generate antibodies even after being vaccinated correctly.
• assorted factors such as ethnicity, age, or genetic predisposition.

If a vaccinated individual does develop the disease vaccinated against (breakthrough infection), the disease is likely to be less virulent than in unvaccinated cases.[38]

Vaccine efficacy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The New England Journal of Medicine did a study on the efficacy of a vaccine for the influenza A virus. A total of 1,952 subjects were enrolled and received study vaccines in the fall of 2007. Influenza activity occurred from January through April 2008, with the circulation of influenza types:

• A (H3N2) (about 90%)
• B (about 9%)

Absolute efficacy against both types of influenza, as measured by isolating the virus in culture, identifying it on real-time polymerase-chain-reaction assay, or both, was 68% (95% confidence interval [CI], 46 to 81) for the inactivated vaccine and 36% (95% CI, 0 to 59) for the live attenuated vaccine. In terms of relative efficacy, there was a 50% (95% CI, 20 to 69) reduction in laboratory-confirmed influenza among subjects who received inactivated vaccine as compared with those given live attenuated vaccine. Subjects were healthy adults. The efficacy against the influenza A virus was 72% and for the inactivated was 29% with a relative efficacy of 60%.[21] The influenza vaccine is not 100% efficacious in preventing disease, but it is close to 100% safe, and much safer than the disease.[22][23]

Since 2004, clinical trials testing the efficacy of the influenza vaccine have been slowly coming in: 2,058 people were vaccinated in October and November 2005. Influenza activity was prolonged but of low intensity; type A (H3N2) was the virus that was generally spreading around the population, which was very like the vaccine itself. The efficacy of the inactivated vaccine was 16% (95% confidence interval [CI], -171% to 70%) for the virus identification end point (virus isolation in cell culture or identification through polymerase chain reaction) and 54% (95% CI, 4%–77%) for the primary end point (virus isolation or increase in serum antibody titer). The absolute efficacies of the live attenuated vaccine for these end points were 8% (95% CI, -194% to 67%) and 43% (95% CI, -15% to 71%).[24]

 

[Pogo]

Trump and he was president when the death stab was created. I remember that stupid cow Kamala harris was asked if she would take the shot she said no because she didn't trust trump. When the idiot Biden was elected though dems moved that death stab so much they wanted to force it in everyone.

I noticed you didn't have the stone to answer my question

And she was right not to take advice from someone who also suggested injecting bleach and shoving a light where it has no business being.
As you should know but apparently don't trump's advice is often dangerous beyond even its ignorance.