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Question on God’s Holiness

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Here is the Arabic:

حدثني محمد بن جعفر القرشي الرزاز الكوفي قال حدثني خالي محمد بن الحسين بن ابي الخطاب قال حدثني موسي بن سعدان الحناط عن عبد الله بن القاسم الحضرمي عن ابراهيم بن شعيب الميثمي قال سمعت ابا عبد الله ع يقول ان الحسين بن علي ع لما ولد امر الله عز و جل جبرءيل ع ان يهبط في الف من الملاءكة فيهنء رسول الله ص من الله و من جبرءيل ع قال و كان مهبط جبرءيل ع علي جزيرة في البحر فيها ملك يقال له فطرس كان من الحملة فبعث في شيء فابطا فيه فكسر جناحه و القي في تلك الجزيرة يعبد الله فيها ستماءة عام حتي ولد الحسين ع فقال الملك لجبرءيل ع اين تريد- قال ان الله تعالي انعم علي محمد ص بنعمة فبعثت اهنءه من الله و مني فقال يا جبرءيل احملني معك لعل محمدا ص يدعو الله لي قال فحمله فلما دخل جبرءيل علي النبي ص و هناه من الله و هناه منه و اخبره بحال فطرس فقال رسول الله ص يا جبرءيل ادخله فلما ادخله اخبر فطرس النبي ص بحاله فدعا له النبي ص و قال له تمسح بهذا المولود و عد الي مكانك قال فتمسح فطرس بالحسين ع و ارتفع و قال يا رسول الله ص اما ان امتك ستقتله- و له علي مكافاة ان لا يزوره زاءر الا بلغته عنه و لا يسلم عليه مسلم الا بلغته سلامه و لا يصلي عليه مصل الا بلغته عليه صلاته قال ثم ارتفع
 

Bree

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The part from the 'jewish teachers' as you put it, was JUST the italicized section.
The theory about other humans is strictly my OWN. You are in error in your accusation.

Yes, Adam & Eve were in Eden. Then kicked out. We're talking about the World here.

It's either there's other people around OR Cain married his SISTER????
OR is incest a preferable theory to you than what's genetically proven?

The Torah does not mention other people NOR does it mention any daughters of Eve.
Also, it's plain to see other people are around. Genesis 4:14 we see Cain complain
that anyone will kill him. WHO? He just murdered his brother! There are no sons
of Able in Torah, though the sons of Cain & later Seth are listed. That means Able
had no children. So, WHO is Cain afraid of? His parents are all there are, if as far
as the Torah is concerned is all you consider.

Use some reasoning here. Instead of theatrics. Or I will stop talking to you, Bree.

And don't think I don't notice you won't capitalize Jewish when you seem to find
your shift key just fine otherwise.


Genesis 5:1 This is the book of Adam’s history. In the day that God created Adam, he made him in the likeness of God.+ 2 Male and female he created them.+ On the day they were created,+ he blessed them and named them Man.*
3 Adam lived for 130 years and then became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and he named him Seth.+ 4 After becoming father to Seth, Adam lived for 800 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 5 So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.+



How many children do you think someone can have when they live for almost 1,000 yrs?

The 'other' humans are from the offspring of Adam and Eve.... their children had children and their children had children and so on.
Its entirely believable that the 'other' humans were the decendants of Adam and Eves children.
 
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