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Jimmy

King Phenomenon
do atheists think theres anything greater than themselves? Higher power other than a god? perhaps the universe?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
do atheists think theres anything greater than themselves? Higher power other than a god? perhaps the universe?
Odd question. As an atheist I don't think in terms of me being great, or there being any sort of ranking system.

There are many natural traits, like athletic ability, intelligence, hair color, looks, etc. that people can be assessed and ranked.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
do atheists think there's anything greater than themselves? Higher power other than a god? perhaps the universe?
What a weird question!
I wouldn't like to fight a lion.
I can't fly like an eagle.
My swimming ability is way below that of a salmon.
I have yet to win a gold medal at the Olympics.
I've got a degree but not an outstanding one.

But I have raised two children, I have 3 grandchildren, and all are atheists. (That's a lie, the youngest two are 5 and 3 so are not old enough to make their mind up)
But all are in awe of this planet, the stars and universe
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
do atheists thin theresanything greater than themselves? Higher power other than a god? perhaps the universe?

Hmmm. Greater in what way? What would be your expectation of something that an atheist would consider greater? When you speak of higher power, are you referring to something that is sentient, has intelligence?

My assumption is that most self-described atheists, have declared a disbelief in any kind of gods, plural, would also disbelieve any concept of a "higher power". They may entertain the possibility of other sentient life existing in the universe, but assert no claims as to characteristics without having any direct evidence.
 

AlexanderG

Active Member
It really depends what you mean by "greater." There are various things or beings that are bigger, taller, smarter, faster, more pink-colored, more efficacious, or more cheerful than I am. Are they greater than me? I have no idea?

Or do you mean are there things that I value more than myself? Probably.

This is one of the reasons the ontological argument fails. "Maximally great being" will mean 10 different things to 10 different people.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
What a weird question!
I wouldn't like to fight a lion.
I can't fly like an eagle.
My swimming ability is way below that of a salmon.
I have yet to win a gold medal at the Olympics.
I've got a degree but not an outstanding one.

But I have raised two children, I have 3 grandchildren, and all are atheists. (That's a lie, the youngest two are 5 and 3 so are not old enough to make their mind up)
But all are in awe of this planet, the stars and universe
you should think higher of yourself.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
It really depends what you mean by "greater." There are various things or beings that are bigger, taller, smarter, faster, more pink-colored, more efficacious, or more cheerful than I am. Are they greater than me? I have no idea?

Or do you mean are there things that I value more than myself? Probably.

This is one of the reasons the ontological argument fails. "Maximally great being" will mean 10 different things to 10 different people.
sorry i asked haha
 
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