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Racism Hate and Sin

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
I have no concept of sin in my paradigm, and any form of hate disgusts me (unless it's hate for okra, because okra also disgusts me, so you have my blessings to hate okra).
 

74x12

Well-Known Member

Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
I have no concept of sin in my paradigm, and any form of hate disgusts me (unless it's hate for okra, because okra also disgusts me, so you have my blessings to hate okra).

Okra is amazing how absolute dare you.

(kidding, lol)
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member

I don't believe in sin. So, I can't personally say whether it is or not. But outside theology, I do dispose hate.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I think the root of hatred and racism is ignorance. Folks need to get out more, talk to people, interrelate, walk together, and for the love of God stop thinking their view of the world is any better than someone else's. It would help immensely to stop passing it on. A kid shouldn't have to wake up at age 16, and deprogram himself of hate.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
According to my beliefs man has two natures, a higher spiritual nature and a lower spiritual nature. Sin originates from the lower nature of man and how that is expressed in racism is hating other people just because of the color of our skin.

“In man there are two natures; his spiritual or higher nature and his material or lower nature. In one he approaches God, in the other he lives for the world alone. Signs of both these natures are to be found in men. In his material aspect he expresses untruth, cruelty and injustice; all these are the outcome of his lower nature. The attributes of his Divine nature are shown forth in love, mercy, kindness, truth and justice, one and all being expressions of his higher nature. Every good habit, every noble quality belongs to man’s spiritual nature, whereas all his imperfections and sinful actions are born of his material nature. If a man’s Divine nature dominates his human nature, we have a saint.” Paris Talks, p. 60

THE TWO NATURES IN MAN

I agree that “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23, KJV) because no human is perfect.
According to my beliefs, the purpose and meaning of the cross sacrifice is as follows.

Question.—In verse 22 of chapter 15 of 1 Corinthians it is written: “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” What is the meaning of these words?

Answer.—Know that there are two natures in man: the physical nature and the spiritual nature. The physical nature is inherited from Adam, and the spiritual nature is inherited from the Reality of the Word of God, which is the spirituality of Christ. The physical nature is born of Adam, but the spiritual nature is born from the bounty of the Holy Spirit. The first is the source of all imperfection; the second is the source of all perfection.

The Christ sacrificed Himself so that men might be freed from the imperfections of the physical nature and might become possessed of the virtues of the spiritual nature. This spiritual nature, which came into existence through the bounty of the Divine Reality, is the union of all perfections and appears through the breath of the Holy Spirit. It is the divine perfections; it is light, spirituality, guidance, exaltation, high aspiration, justice, love, grace, kindness to all, philanthropy, the essence of life. It is the reflection of the splendor of the Sun of Reality…..

The second meaning of sacrifice is this: Christ was like a seed, and this seed sacrificed its own form so that the tree might grow and develop. Although the form of the seed was destroyed, its reality became apparent in perfect majesty and beauty in the form of a tree. Some Answered Questions, p. 118, 121

Read more: 29: EXPLANATION OF VERSE TWENTY-TWO, CHAPTER FIFTEEN, OF THE FIRST EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL TO THE CORINTHIANS
 

MatthewA

Active Member
@InChrist these are some of my thoughts on the situation it is a war between the spirit and the mind of a person.

I believe it has to do with the mind/heart of the person.

In this body; it is spiritually dead; and it (the flesh) is actually an enemy to God. (It has its own desires and has no desires of things towards the spirit). A person is reborn again and spiritually alive by and through (the receipt of the truth of the Gospel of Christ Jesus which is the power of God unto salvation for all people who believe).

I believe that we war with our mind when it comes down to hate and not being loving. Because as human beings; we have all hated at one pointed in time someone who has done us wrong; and maybe not have forgive them. Or just simply have hate because of jealous of what someone does has and we desire those things.

Racism; is null in void when it comes to living by the spirit; because as human beings we understand how we are in our bodies imperfect; and people have all types of desires; and we are not to judge others; if a person desires to be racist; and say they are Christian; that person is not a true Christian with hate in their heart and they are not renewed in their mind.

Our flesh and mind are capable of many things when it is not spiritually reborn; and in its natural state. Those are my thoughts on the subject. You can see what the acts of the flesh are and they are obvious according to scripture; Galatians 5:19-21. Until a person is reborn again their heart will remain the same of whatever it is they desire to live for; which is a total choice.

I know that their is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus (living by the spirit who are partaking in the love of God, and the Lord Jesus Christ). Also that Jesus Christ speaks what the thoughts are the come from the heart are evil in Mark 7.
 
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Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I have a concept of real world good/evil. None of sin exactly. Ignorance and hate are some of the roots of a real world evil. Racism is like a fruit of an evil vine.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member

I suppose it can be argued that expressions of racism and hatred are likely rooted in deeper problems - or "sins," as they might be called. Sin may be rooted in fatigue, fear, or trauma. Fear may be the biggest factor, as people tend to hate that which they fear. If it's an unfounded fear, then the sin may be one of lying or bearing false witness.

On the other hand, if a NYC shrink goes around saying she fantasizes about shooting white people in the head, that's not exactly going to allay anyone's fear. In fact, it might even increase people's fear, which feeds into more hatred.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
According to my beliefs man has two natures, a higher spiritual nature and a lower spiritual nature. Sin originates from the lower nature of man and how that is expressed in racism is hating other people just because of the color of our skin.

“In man there are two natures; his spiritual or higher nature and his material or lower nature. In one he approaches God, in the other he lives for the world alone. Signs of both these natures are to be found in men. In his material aspect he expresses untruth, cruelty and injustice; all these are the outcome of his lower nature. The attributes of his Divine nature are shown forth in love, mercy, kindness, truth and justice, one and all being expressions of his higher nature. Every good habit, every noble quality belongs to man’s spiritual nature, whereas all his imperfections and sinful actions are born of his material nature. If a man’s Divine nature dominates his human nature, we have a saint.” Paris Talks, p. 60

THE TWO NATURES IN MAN

I agree that “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23, KJV) because no human is perfect.
According to my beliefs, the purpose and meaning of the cross sacrifice is as follows.

Question.—In verse 22 of chapter 15 of 1 Corinthians it is written: “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” What is the meaning of these words?

Answer.—Know that there are two natures in man: the physical nature and the spiritual nature. The physical nature is inherited from Adam, and the spiritual nature is inherited from the Reality of the Word of God, which is the spirituality of Christ. The physical nature is born of Adam, but the spiritual nature is born from the bounty of the Holy Spirit. The first is the source of all imperfection; the second is the source of all perfection.

The Christ sacrificed Himself so that men might be freed from the imperfections of the physical nature and might become possessed of the virtues of the spiritual nature. This spiritual nature, which came into existence through the bounty of the Divine Reality, is the union of all perfections and appears through the breath of the Holy Spirit. It is the divine perfections; it is light, spirituality, guidance, exaltation, high aspiration, justice, love, grace, kindness to all, philanthropy, the essence of life. It is the reflection of the splendor of the Sun of Reality…..

The second meaning of sacrifice is this: Christ was like a seed, and this seed sacrificed its own form so that the tree might grow and develop. Although the form of the seed was destroyed, its reality became apparent in perfect majesty and beauty in the form of a tree. Some Answered Questions, p. 118, 121

Read more: 29: EXPLANATION OF VERSE TWENTY-TWO, CHAPTER FIFTEEN, OF THE FIRST EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL TO THE CORINTHIANS
According to my beliefs man has two natures, a higher spiritual nature and a lower spiritual nature. Sin originates from the lower nature of man and how that is expressed in racism is hating other people just because of the color of our skin.

“In man there are two natures; his spiritual or higher nature and his material or lower nature. In one he approaches God, in the other he lives for the world alone. Signs of both these natures are to be found in men. In his material aspect he expresses untruth, cruelty and injustice; all these are the outcome of his lower nature. The attributes of his Divine nature are shown forth in love, mercy, kindness, truth and justice, one and all being expressions of his higher nature. Every good habit, every noble quality belongs to man’s spiritual nature, whereas all his imperfections and sinful actions are born of his material nature. If a man’s Divine nature dominates his human nature, we have a saint.” Paris Talks, p. 60

THE TWO NATURES IN MAN

I agree that “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23, KJV) because no human is perfect.
According to my beliefs, the purpose and meaning of the cross sacrifice is as follows.

Question.—In verse 22 of chapter 15 of 1 Corinthians it is written: “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” What is the meaning of these words?

Answer.—Know that there are two natures in man: the physical nature and the spiritual nature. The physical nature is inherited from Adam, and the spiritual nature is inherited from the Reality of the Word of God, which is the spirituality of Christ. The physical nature is born of Adam, but the spiritual nature is born from the bounty of the Holy Spirit. The first is the source of all imperfection; the second is the source of all perfection.

The Christ sacrificed Himself so that men might be freed from the imperfections of the physical nature and might become possessed of the virtues of the spiritual nature. This spiritual nature, which came into existence through the bounty of the Divine Reality, is the union of all perfections and appears through the breath of the Holy Spirit. It is the divine perfections; it is light, spirituality, guidance, exaltation, high aspiration, justice, love, grace, kindness to all, philanthropy, the essence of life. It is the reflection of the splendor of the Sun of Reality…..

The second meaning of sacrifice is this: Christ was like a seed, and this seed sacrificed its own form so that the tree might grow and develop. Although the form of the seed was destroyed, its reality became apparent in perfect majesty and beauty in the form of a tree. Some Answered Questions, p. 118, 121

Read more: 29: EXPLANATION OF VERSE TWENTY-TWO, CHAPTER FIFTEEN, OF THE FIRST EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL TO THE CORINTHIANS
Thanks for your thoughts. I agree with much you have shared.
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I am of the opinion that racism is rooted in human instinct. We are hard-wired to form tribes/clans, to see people as in-group or other. In a primitive state, strong ties to group enhanced survival. In our modern age this instinct can be expressed in many overlapping ways, such as school/sport team rivalry, gang affiliations, political grouping, race and ethnic affiliation. We are all born racist. It is through education and anti-racist socialization that we rise above this residual instinctive behavior.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I suppose it can be argued that expressions of racism and hatred are likely rooted in deeper problems - or "sins," as they might be called. Sin may be rooted in fatigue, fear, or trauma. Fear may be the biggest factor, as people tend to hate that which they fear. If it's an unfounded fear, then the sin may be one of lying or bearing false witness.

On the other hand, if a NYC shrink goes around saying she fantasizes about shooting white people in the head, that's not exactly going to allay anyone's fear. In fact, it might even increase people's fear, which feeds into more hatred.
Thanks for your thoughts and pertinent insight.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
@InChrist these are some of my thoughts on the situation it is a war between the spirit and the mind of a person.

I believe it has to do with the mind/heart of the person.

In this body; it is spiritually dead; and it (the flesh) is actually an enemy to God. (It has its own desires and has no desires of things towards the spirit). A person is reborn again and spiritually alive by and through (the receipt of the truth of the Gospel of Christ Jesus which is the power of God unto salvation for all people who believe).

I believe that we war with our mind when it comes down to hate and not being loving. Because as human beings; we have all hated at one pointed in time someone who has done us wrong; and maybe not have forgive them. Or just simply have hate because of jealous of what someone does has and we desire those things.

Racism; is null in void when it comes to living by the spirit; because as human beings we understand how we are in our bodies imperfect; and people have all types of desires; and we are not to judge others; if a person desires to be racist; and say they are Christian; that person is not a true Christian with hate in their heart and they are not renewed in their mind.

Our flesh and mind are capable of many things when it is not spiritually reborn; and in its natural state. Those are my thoughts on the subject. You can see what the acts of the flesh are and they are obvious according to scripture; Galatians 5:19-21. Until a person is reborn again their heart will remain the same of whatever it is they desire to live for; which is a total choice.

I know that their is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus (living by the spirit who are partaking in the love of God, and the Lord Jesus Christ). Also that Jesus Christ speaks what the thoughts are the come from the heart are evil in Mark 7.
Thank you so much for sharing your views on the subject. I think we see things very similarly.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I am of the opinion that racism is rooted in human instinct. We are hard-wired to form tribes/clans, to see people as in-group or other. In a primitive state, strong ties to group enhanced survival. In our modern age this instinct can be expressed in many overlapping ways, such as school/sport team rivalry, gang affiliations, political grouping, race and ethnic affiliation. We are all born racist. It is through education and anti-racist socialization that we rise above this residual instinctive behavior.
Thanks for your perspective. Do you think racism is wrong? Would you call it sin or not?
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I have a concept of real world good/evil. None of sin exactly. Ignorance and hate are some of the roots of a real world evil. Racism is like a fruit of an evil vine.
Thanks for your response. Do you think there is a difference between evil and sin?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I have no concept of sin in my paradigm, and any form of hate disgusts me (unless it's hate for okra, because okra also disgusts me, so you have my blessings to hate okra).

I’d sooner eat okra than kale. Okra can be coated and deep fried. But kale!? Kale is proof the gods have a twisted collective sense of humor... worthy of mine. :D

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