Maybe she feels pressured. No doctor here would allow such things, to my knowledge anyway.
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Rapper T.I. Is Creepily Obsessed With His 18-Year-Old Daughter’s Hymen
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But it makes more sense.I'd say that's not much better
Stanyon
WWMRD?
O.k. take the celebrity aspect out of it which was in the title of the thread and what we are left with is a thread about a guy who wasn't paying attention in middle school sex education class.
Big deal
A guy who represents a particular sort of view.
I watched a show on this topic, including hymen reconstruction surgery here in Oz. It was pretty interesting, and exposed various views on this.
Upto you, but I'll try and dig it out.
I'm not sure why you're suggesting this topic is less worthy of discussion than some others, regardless your position on it. That does t worry me, to be clear, just unsure why you're dufferentiating.
I get that this might not be something you watch, as you'd need to create a (free) account.
It's an Australian government station, safe, good quality, etc.
Still...including here as much for completeness as anything.
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Shad
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Probably money as in inheritance. My guess.
Ahh true
Shad
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I am assuming the father has some money considering his career.
Back when I was in Jr High a friend's mother made a money promise so her daughters would stay virgins until adulthood. They were not rich nor did the idea work but I have seen such ideas created by parents. Granted the mother didn't do these checks in the OP
Be that as it may, I still find the actions of Mr TI to be extremely creepy and misogynistic. I am also concerned with how people (usually of the religious variety) place such a high value on virginity. Sometimes both genders but a lot of the time mainly focused on the girl. Like I dunno, that doesn’t seem like a great message for youngsters. It just creates ridiculously high expectations and maybe even cause extra guilt, stigma and shame to a sexually abused child.
I don’t think it’s healthy. Not to say we should encourage teens to sexually experiment. But just have a healthier attitude towards sex in general.
Shad
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Creepy and extreme in my view. I do not know if he has a son nor if he does holds a similar standard for males. If he held the same standard then it was just be an obsessive form of parenting with the checkups. Still creepy.
Depends if we are talking about now or in the past. Many people will reform previous ideas or at least concept like maintaining virginity while dropping the property aspects. Females are going to be a focus as the buck stops with them in general when it comes to sex.
Abuse and rape depending on religion is or is not treated the same as sex by choice.
Problem I see is many parents' idea of health attitude is just have safe sex. That is a subpar standard in my view.
I do love how his Twitter post had everyone joining together to bash his creepiness.
The obsession people have with virginity (especially female virginity) imo is unsettling even now. Though seems more fervent in America in all honesty
Even if it’s not, a child may not pick up on the nuance and feel the stigma regardless
Well yeah I agree with that.
Just have safe sex is simplistic and without nuance. A healthy attitude to me is to be open with discussing sexuality in a mature measured and factual manner. Stressing the importance of consent, personal autonomy, choice, personal responsibility and discussing it with your partner in a frank and open manner. Dispel myths, discuss concerns, teach sex using science instead of squeamishness.
I had several sex Ed classes, by proxy of taking elected high school courses like hospitality (which had a precursor all about mental and physical health for some reason) and science where in Biology we discussed in matter of fact terms about how human reproduction works. And then the mandatory sex Ed course everyone took previously. This was grade 8/9/10 so I was 13, 14 and 15
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Shad
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In Western nations sure. Globally the US do not hold a candle to Islam.
As I said it depends on what people say
And outcomes. If someone has a child before completing HS and/or post-secondary education they set themselves back for years to never recovering comparing to those that do not have children at that age.
True.
Perhaps. Wording is important when dealing with sensitive topics, especially around kids
Well sure.
Although, I don’t know the stats for this, but where I live I didn’t actually know that many people who got pregnant during high school. There was maybe one girl in my grade but that was a rumour. And it’s not like I grew up in an affluent area. Even my high school was thought of as “Derro” (rough.)
The quirky time table they had was worth it though lol
The only people who stopped high school at grade 10 were doing so because they went into a trade. Which is the one time you could legally drop out, as far as I’m aware. And those apprentices made bank
Shad
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Sure. Context, audience and use of media are factors as well. The issue with media is content could be for adult but accessible by children. YT videos for example.
I know a few myself. Only one recovered which is now a certified accountant. Still took a decade to get to a point easily achievable in a few years without having a child
Up here 16 is the age which people nor the parents are no longer under the legal obligation to attend a school. Dropping out for a trade-skill is not something I have knowledge experience-wise.
YT is actually pretty strict nowadays. Sure there’s “adult” content insofar as there’s swearing in some videos. Adult topics discussed, but YT have come down hard on content creators. Twitch might be a bit more adult though
There is also the children’s YT app.
Oh I know couple of people who got pregnant early and just went through Uni online, honestly. They found stable jobs once their kid was in school, since a lot of businesses specifically cater towards “parent hours.” I guess it was a bit harder than usual and I don’t particularly think teens should be getting pregnant. But providing resources is also important I think. Down here you can even complete your grade 12 diplomacy online.
Ahh here you can be 15 (and in grade 10) provided you either do a trade apprenticeship or work full time. Otherwise you are legally supposed to be in school until you graduate.
Shad
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I do not mean the filter just content. More so not everybody follows the policy of using proper tags nor do people even think their content needs such a tag. The Bible isn't filtered for graphic content after all.
My experience was in the late 90s. Online studies were not as developed nor as broad then.
I was thinking of good jobs nor merely stable. There is a gray area between income assistance and min wage income up here. Often if one can not get full-time the assistance provides support more than working will. Some benefits are cut completely if you earn a wage income too. If one has more than two children there is no point in working full-time at min wage as far as money goes.
This would be better than the law here in my view.
YouTube changed its TOS recently. So I mean they do what they can.
But at the end of the day YouTube isn’t a babysitter. Like monitor your kid online. This isn’t the 90s anymore. People who grew up on the internet are the ones raising the kids these days. So it’s not like they aren’t savvy or out of the loop like our parents were.
If you’re going to let the kids on YouTube have it always be on the living room TV or something. Sure you can’t monitor them all the time and okay like every single generation in history their friends might show them something highly questionable on occasion.
But I mean that’s just life sometimes.
Take things as they come and adapt.
Ahh fair enough.
I was probably in primary school back then. (Elementary or maybe middle school for you Americans? I dunno. Whatever grade 2-5 is.)
Ahh “good job” is in the eye of the beholder. Some people really enjoy working retail, some enjoy packing crates some have a passion for teaching. If you can find stable work in your field of choice then you’re golden, as far as I’m concerned.
I’m not particularly versed in the ins and outs of our welfare system honestly since I am lucky enough to have a job.
I remember being on student income years ago and they put me on job search when I hit 18. Then when I did find a casual job I didn’t work enough hours to leave job search but my weekly income did affect my benefits somewhat. It did somewhat amuse me to have to call in to say I couldn’t make it to the “How to get a job courses” Centrelink had signed me up for, because I had to go to my job instead lol
Fair enough. What is your guys equivalent to the OP? Which is like Overall Position. Essentially when we take our final tests for grade 12 our results are calculated I think for the state and how well you do gives you your overall position in amongst all the students scores. The lower the OP number the better you did, which allows people to get into certain University courses (although alternative pathways are usually available if you didn’t get the required OP score for your desired degree. Depending on the course, anyway.)
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Shad
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YouTube changed its TOS recently. So I mean they do what they can.
My point was never about a filter.
This x1000
The problem didn't change, the product of the computer did.
Failures of parenting hardly rests with the internet. I mean how children get into trouble has changed but the causes remain the same in my view.
I am Canadian. k-6 is elementary. 7-9 is Jr HS, 10 to 12 is HS.
Not in the context I was taking about as I referenced wages.
The problem is if their enjoyment results in a job that does not pay their bill they get on income assistance. At that point they need to find a job to pay their bills and get over themselves.
Students can claim income assistance up here if their class load is around 40 hours a week. Student grants are for tuition not living expenses. Student loans are not classified as normal bank loan. Depending on province students pay interest or none at all.
SAT and ACT is typically the standard. The top schools require it. TOEFL, IELTS, GRE and GMAT can be used if the university in question is interested in reviewing any. Admission is also done via programs thus departments so there is another layer of "filtering" in which the top ranked students get seats then it is opened to general population. Applications are reviewed by the professor or TA. Often C+ students are refereed to an entry programs to ensure they understand the basics of a program. It is what I call "kids will be kids" program. The basic idea is that people can mess around in HS so they get a chance to demonstrate a change from HS to time of applying