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Reaping the effects of rejecting Yahweh’s Word

Messianic Israelite

Active Member
Out of curiosity, why do you pronounce Gods name? Im just asking because you are an "Israelite" as you call yourself.

Hi firedragon. Good day. I would be happy to answer your questions. We pronounce Yahweh’s Name because this is Yahweh’s will, that His people call upon Him, as we read in myriad scriptures such as Psalm 105:1-3. As you have rightly said, we call ourselves Messianic or Spiritual Israelites. Israelites were worshippers of Yahweh, who used the Name of Yahweh, while also keeping the Torah Law, as do we in the Assemblies of Yahweh however, there is a renewed significance to our worship as we follow Yahshua the Messiah, our Savior, who I should add, kept the commandments of Yahweh perfectly.

The Name of the Most High appears 6,823 times in the Hebrew Scriptures, but altogether, with the times it was removed, and the abbreviated form Yah, this appears approximately 7,000 times in the Hebrew Scriptures. It is the most frequently used term in the Hebrew Scriptures. Although most Jews adhere to the practice of not pronouncing the Name nowadays, this was not always the practice. The Jews were concerned that the Name would be used disrespectfully among the nations, which is a reasonable view, however, it is not our right to withhold the truth from people just because we feel it will be mishandled. Yahweh himself will judge those who blaspheme his glorious Name.

As a result of this Jewish innovation, although the Bible has been translated into many languages, in every language and dialect a different name for the Almighty appears! This is totally inconsistent, because the Almighty has only one Name, Psalm 83:18. He does not have many names.

In being here on RF I hear the excuse that the true Name(s) of the Heavenly Father and His Son does not matter. However, this is nothing more than a foolish excuse that will cost people their salvation. When you read of all the scriptures in the Bible relating to the Name in the Bible, any logical person would have to agree that the Name of the Most High and His Son are vitally important to our salvation, such as in Acts 4:12. People who don’t use the Name(s) don’t truly care about their salvation, they don’t care about the Truth and as a result, by rejecting the Name of the Most High, Yahweh will reject them. In order to make it to the Kingdom, we have to follow the Bible in every way. It’s not easy to make it to the Kingdom of Yahweh. When people reject any part of Yahweh’s Word, they deny themselves the chance to be there. By rejecting the Name, we lose a vital part of understanding the seamless nature of Yahweh from the Old to the New Testament and we fail to understand the eternal nature of Yahweh and the zeal He has for His glorious Name.
 

Messianic Israelite

Active Member
Until Christians deal with the moral issues in their own churches, they need to keep their mouths shut about how other people live their lives. They don't have the moral ground to piously judge other people. In fact, Christians should be more concerned about the plank in their own eye before they worry about the speck of dust in someone else's eye (LGBTQ+ or not). For instance, the sex abuse scandals in the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Church and the 68% of Christian men who are addicted to pornography. It's hypocritical for Christians to judge other people. As the old adage goes, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones."

Porn Addiction Statistics
The statistics for Christian men between 18 and 30 years old are particularly striking:
  • 77 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
  • 36 percent view pornography on a daily basis
  • 32 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 12 percent think they may be).
The statistics for middle-aged Christian men (ages 31 to 49) are no less disturbing:
  • 77 percent looked at pornography while at work in the past three months.
  • 64 percent view pornography at least monthly.
  • 18 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 8 percent think they may be).
Even married Christian men are falling prey to pornography and extramarital sexual affairs at alarming rates:
  • 55 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
  • 35 percent had an extramarital affair.
Source: Is Porn Addiction a Problem in Your Church?

Sgt. Pepper. Good evening. I'm not actually a Chr-stian. We exist outside of Chr-stianity and Judaism and we choose to adhere to all the Bible. It's certainly a worrying case, the statistics that you have given but I can safely say that the Bible teaches a life of purity. 1 Corinthians 6:18 says "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body." Yahshua my Savior told us that even looking at a woman and lusting after her was committing adultery. I posted a thread about pornography when I first came on to RF. The zeitgeist of the times is steeped in pornography. I don't watch pornography, and I avoid the internet in general and even TV. I do listen to the radio but one might say my life is quite extreme. I've taken strict measures to avoid any evil. If I use the internet, it will be at a coffee shop, library etc where there is WI-FI.

Just because people fail the Word, doesn't change the perfection of the Word and it doesn't take away the fact that they are a number of people who are adhering to the teachings of the Word. As a result I can boldly speak out against such issues because I'm trying to live a perfect, sanctified life worthy of Yahweh's glorious Name and the Truth He has revealed to me through His Son Yahshua the Messiah and the Holy Spirit.

Psalm 119:1 says: "Blessed are they that are perfect in the way, Who walk in the law of Yahweh"

Don't look at the failings of people and mar the religious all with the same brush, but look at those who are keeping the commandments of Yahweh and imitate them. I imitate Yahshua the Messiah who did no sin and through the power of the Holy Spirit I am given the strength to keep all of His righteous commandments.
 

Messianic Israelite

Active Member
If they are taught about it, maybe. Could be. A friend in New Zealand had his son wanting to be a girl at the age of 8, and now it's been a few years. She is a girl now and identifies as a girl. But I think they had to go for therapy or some kind of sessions. She was also taking medication.

But one thing I must say is that, apparently she is happier now.

@Messianic Israelite

In this kind of scenario, how would you handle it? Now there could be an imposter like that guy who went to a women's jail, but most could be genuine as the case above. And their happiness matters in my opinion.

Dilemma?

Hi firedragon. I would say that I am concerned with the happiness of people too, but I believe happiness comes from the adherence of Yahweh's Law. Proverbs 29:18 proves this: "Where there is no vision, the people cast off restraint; But he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

Why is it that here in the west we have such a problem with people not feeling comfortable in their own bodies. And even when they do transition, they don’t feel comfortable. This is what I’m getting at. Trans people have the most suicide ideation of any other population, 7-10 years after transition. Do you think they truly find happiness when they attempt to change their gender. I don't think so.

Eight year old children may fall behind physically, emotionally, socially, or cognitively. At eight years old we encourage our children to be more independent, to learn, grow, explore, and try new things. But remember, they are just getting their feet wet in their role as a "big kid." As your they tackle new challenges, it is important to remain available to provide support when they need it. They are no way at an age to make an decision that will effect the rest of their lives such as gender reassignment. They have barely even begun puberty.

I would advise that anyone, regardless of age, should seek therapy of some kind to explore why they feel they are in the wrong body and what can be done to help them without resorting to such ill-advised methods.
 

Messianic Israelite

Active Member
The ‘in between’ I think is the mindset dictators and war criminals use to justify genocide and the like. Love is a strong word and used for a reason I believe, so there be no justification for cruelty and oppression in our world.

Of course it cannot be enforced but we can be educated from childhood to view all the world as our family. Seeing others as family would we be willing to murder family members in places for example like we see in Ukraine, Syria and Myanmar? It’s the mindset that sees an ‘us and them’ that enables us to be easily manipulated to demonise others.

Hi loverofhumanity. You cannot beat Yahweh's Law when it comes to morality. Even if people were taught that the world is their family, murders take place within families. Mothers and fathers abusing their babies, beating their babies to death for example. No, even family has no meaning to some. If people however believed in Yahweh and recognized that we are created in Yahweh's image and that we are to take care of one another as if it was Yahweh himself that was our neighbor, then people's attitude would change for the better.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Hi firedragon. I would say that I am concerned with the happiness of people too, but I believe happiness comes from the adherence of Yahweh's Law. Proverbs 29:18 proves this: "Where there is no vision, the people cast off restraint; But he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

Why is it that here in the west we have such a problem with people not feeling comfortable in their own bodies. And even when they do transition, they don’t feel comfortable. This is what I’m getting at. Trans people have the most suicide ideation of any other population, 7-10 years after transition. Do you think they truly find happiness when they attempt to change their gender. I don't think so.

Eight year old children may fall behind physically, emotionally, socially, or cognitively. At eight years old we encourage our children to be more independent, to learn, grow, explore, and try new things. But remember, they are just getting their feet wet in their role as a "big kid." As your they tackle new challenges, it is important to remain available to provide support when they need it. They are no way at an age to make an decision that will effect the rest of their lives such as gender reassignment. They have barely even begun puberty.

I would advise that anyone, regardless of age, should seek therapy of some kind to explore why they feel they are in the wrong body and what can be done to help them without resorting to such ill-advised methods.

You are absolutely right. Children can change their mind tomorrow or in 10 years. I think it's to hasty of a process they went through. For the moment, it seems all good.

I don't know about therapy and stuff, but I think there should be an appropriate age. I think it's a growing business and the parents don't really have a choice because sometimes it is mandated by the government. A child can't get married. No. no no. But a child can get medicine to stop their puberty. Awesome.

BUT, all of that said and done, I am not judging the family. Especially not the father who honestly was devastated and very scared for his baby. But they seem to have settled down now, and the child seems happy. That's my position on this.
 

Messianic Israelite

Active Member
You are absolutely right. Children can change their mind tomorrow or in 10 years. I think it's to hasty of a process they went through. For the moment, it seems all good.

I don't know about therapy and stuff, but I think there should be an appropriate age. I think it's a growing business and the parents don't really have a choice because sometimes it is mandated by the government. A child can't get married. No. no no. But a child can get medicine to stop their puberty. Awesome.

BUT, all of that said and done, I am not judging the family. Especially not the father who honestly was devastated and very scared for his baby. But they seem to have settled down now, and the child seems happy. That's my position on this.

Thanks for sharing firedragon. Yes, I don't know if you heard of this case in Canada. In 2018, a father in Canada was informed that a hospital would begin administering hormone-altering medications to his child. According to a recently passed Canadian law, doctors can administer these drugs to children without parental consent. When the father spoke out, he was arrested and fined $30,000 for misgendering his 13 year old daughter.

It's absolutely ridiculous that even a parent cannot stand in the way of their own children reassigning.

Have you ever spoke to a mother whose 14 year old daughter was put on blockers. They discovered after 2 years her daughter has got osteoporosis. That’s what old people get! No this is serious and they have no idea what effect these blockers and hormones have on the children yet they're pumping them full of them anyway. How can they be removing the healthy breasts of 15 year old girls. How can they be sterilizing kids. And yet those who stand against this madness are being called the monsters.

The child you mentioned might claim they are happy now, which I seriously doubt, but ask them again in 10 years time and I think you'd get quite a different response.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Thanks for sharing firedragon. Yes, I don't know if you heard of this case in Canada. In 2018, a father in Canada was informed that a hospital would begin administering hormone-altering medications to his child. According to a recently passed Canadian law, doctors can administer these drugs to children without parental consent. When the father spoke out, he was arrested and fined $30,000 for misgendering his 13 year old daughter.

It's absolutely ridiculous that even a parent cannot stand in the way of their own children reassigning.

Have you ever spoke to a mother whose 14 year old daughter was put on blockers. They discovered after 2 years her daughter has got osteoporosis. That’s what old people get! No this is serious and they have no idea what effect these blockers and hormones have on the children yet they're pumping them full of them anyway. How can they be removing the healthy breasts of 15 year old girls. How can they be sterilizing kids. And yet those who stand against this madness are being called the monsters.

The child you mentioned might claim they are happy now, which I seriously doubt, but ask them again in 10 years time and I think you'd get quite a different response.

I heard of these cases. I watched that movie. Whats the name? Who is a woman???

But ironically, my post was way before I saw that movie.

I know the ground situation. I have personal experience in the case of my best friend. He is an atheist and always was. Thus, I perfectly understand what you say.

But I still don't judge the family. I want them to be as happy as they can be.

Hope you understand.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Hi loverofhumanity. You cannot beat Yahweh's Law when it comes to morality. Even if people were taught that the world is their family, murders take place within families. Mothers and fathers abusing their babies, beating their babies to death for example. No, even family has no meaning to some. If people however believed in Yahweh and recognized that we are created in Yahweh's image and that we are to take care of one another as if it was Yahweh himself that was our neighbor, then people's attitude would change for the better.

So true.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
As you have rightly said, we call ourselves Messianic or Spiritual Israelites. Israelites were worshippers of Yahweh, who used the Name of Yahweh, while also keeping the Torah Law, as do we in the Assemblies of Yahweh however, there is a renewed significance to our worship as we follow Yahshua the Messiah, our Savior, who I should add, kept the commandments of Yahweh perfectly.
Not to nitpick but Israel worshiped El. That’s why it’s named after Him. Judah is related to Yahweh.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Why is it that here in the west we have such a problem with people not feeling comfortable in their own bodies.
Because people, including medical professionals sometimes, have simplistic understanding of gender and sexuality. Trans people don’t change gender. They were wrongly assumed to have a gender they didn’t.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Thanks for sharing firedragon. Yes, I don't know if you heard of this case in Canada. In 2018, a father in Canada was informed that a hospital would begin administering hormone-altering medications to his child. According to a recently passed Canadian law, doctors can administer these drugs to children without parental consent.
That's right: Canadian law enshrines the right of any person with the capacity to do so to consent to their own medical care... as it should be.

If you disagree, why?

When the father spoke out, he was arrested and fined $30,000 for misgendering his 13 year old daughter.
Source?

It's absolutely ridiculous that even a parent cannot stand in the way of their own children reassigning.
Parents are the stewards of their children, not their owners.

Parents are entrusted to exercise their child's rights on the child's behalf, but this is predicated on two factors being present:

- that the child doesn't have the capacity to exercise those rights themselves, and
- that the parent is acting in the child's best interest.

When it comes to a trans teen with anti-trans parents, generally neither of these factors is present.
 
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