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Reaping the effects of rejecting Yahweh’s Word

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I heard something this week that caused me concern. As many of you know, there is a lot of change going on in our societies regarding gender rights and how someone identifies. As a mental health support worker, I’ve noticed this has come down in to my very own workplace. Women identifying as men, men identifying as women, and everything in between. You have to be careful nowadays not to call someone who is clearly woman ‘she’, or ‘her’ for fear of upsetting them. My normal choice of action is to avoid those who identify in this way. Nowadays, a person’s perceived identity is very important to them. Being mis-identified (accidentally or on purpose) is uncomfortable and can be offensive (and can be perceived as a form of harassment). Calling what is clearly a grown man, with a beard, and a low voice a ‘man’, or a ‘he’ could get you involved in an altercation.

What caught my attention was the story of a man who committed a crime, and during sentencing he said he identifies as a woman, so, he was sent to a woman’s prison. You can probably realize that such wouldn’t end well. He got several of the women there pregnant. I sigh and I pray about the evil situation we face in the world, all because Yahweh’s Word has been rejected. Yahweh has said male and female, created he them in Genesis 1:27, but people want to identify as something other than that which they were born as. Can’t people see that this confusion we are reaping, which comes from rejection of Yahweh’s Law, is getting out of hand? Men competing in women’s sports and winning all the games. How about people of a certain race, identifying as another race? Or people of a certain age, identifying as a different age to what they are? Can’t people see this is getting out of hand?

What gets me is this is even affecting children. Children are even claiming to identify as the opposite gender to which they are. Children, whose minds are unstable and who don’t even know what they themselves want.

No-one looks at the fact that sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

Further, for those who are unwise enough to support gender reassignment, it might be worth to know that many trans people regret changing their gender. A new term I heard about was de-transitioning. You may have heard it yourself of trans people attempting to reverse their transition to a different sex. The number of young people seeking gender transition is at the highest it has ever been, but little is reported about how many of them regret the decision later, finding they are unhappy with their new gender. There’s even a charity that has been set up called The Detransition Advocacy Network, which aims to provide guidance to trans people who have undergone gender reassignment, but now want to change back to their original gender. I don’t know about you, but I feel the LGBTQ and whatever other letters are added on (I lose track) should feel ashamed. They are pushing for transitioning but they have no idea the damage that it is doing to people’s lives.

How about getting back to the Bible? We can achieve peace with our gender, with our life, when we keep Yahweh’s Law and embrace His Word. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: “33 for Yahweh is not an Elohim of confusion, but of peace.” This world is in confusion and I’m afraid that due to the spiraling conditions of this world, the only thing that will put a stop to this evil will be when Yahshua our Savior returns and rules over this world in righteousness. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. This whole gender reassignment I know is an irritation to Yahweh as it is to me and it's rooted in a lack of peace. Peace is given to those who keep His Laws.

John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
Wait - you managed to maintain these bigoted attitudes while being a mental health support worker? I'm both impressed and appalled... kinda like when I hear about a YEC geologist.

For your professional development courses, do you just put your fingers in your ears until it's over?
 

Mark Charles Compton

Pineal Peruser
Christian advice would be to just tough it out in one's biological gender, which is also a source of unhappiness.
Source of unhappiness? A person born blind doesn't perceive their ocular organs as the 'source of unhappiness'. Autistic individuals do not perceive their chromosomal situation as the 'source of unhappiness'.

I would argue that if there is unhappiness, its source is unlikely an attribute the sufferer has possessed from birth.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I heard something this week that caused me concern. As many of you know, there is a lot of change going on in our societies regarding gender rights and how someone identifies. As a mental health support worker, I’ve noticed this has come down in to my very own workplace. Women identifying as men, men identifying as women, and everything in between. You have to be careful nowadays not to call someone who is clearly woman ‘she’, or ‘her’ for fear of upsetting them. My normal choice of action is to avoid those who identify in this way. Nowadays, a person’s perceived identity is very important to them. Being mis-identified (accidentally or on purpose) is uncomfortable and can be offensive (and can be perceived as a form of harassment). Calling what is clearly a grown man, with a beard, and a low voice a ‘man’, or a ‘he’ could get you involved in an altercation.

What caught my attention was the story of a man who committed a crime, and during sentencing he said he identifies as a woman, so, he was sent to a woman’s prison. You can probably realize that such wouldn’t end well. He got several of the women there pregnant. I sigh and I pray about the evil situation we face in the world, all because Yahweh’s Word has been rejected. Yahweh has said male and female, created he them in Genesis 1:27, but people want to identify as something other than that which they were born as. Can’t people see that this confusion we are reaping, which comes from rejection of Yahweh’s Law, is getting out of hand? Men competing in women’s sports and winning all the games. How about people of a certain race, identifying as another race? Or people of a certain age, identifying as a different age to what they are? Can’t people see this is getting out of hand?

What gets me is this is even affecting children. Children are even claiming to identify as the opposite gender to which they are. Children, whose minds are unstable and who don’t even know what they themselves want.

No-one looks at the fact that sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

Further, for those who are unwise enough to support gender reassignment, it might be worth to know that many trans people regret changing their gender. A new term I heard about was de-transitioning. You may have heard it yourself of trans people attempting to reverse their transition to a different sex. The number of young people seeking gender transition is at the highest it has ever been, but little is reported about how many of them regret the decision later, finding they are unhappy with their new gender. There’s even a charity that has been set up called The Detransition Advocacy Network, which aims to provide guidance to trans people who have undergone gender reassignment, but now want to change back to their original gender. I don’t know about you, but I feel the LGBTQ and whatever other letters are added on (I lose track) should feel ashamed. They are pushing for transitioning but they have no idea the damage that it is doing to people’s lives.

How about getting back to the Bible? We can achieve peace with our gender, with our life, when we keep Yahweh’s Law and embrace His Word. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: “33 for Yahweh is not an Elohim of confusion, but of peace.” This world is in confusion and I’m afraid that due to the spiraling conditions of this world, the only thing that will put a stop to this evil will be when Yahshua our Savior returns and rules over this world in righteousness. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. This whole gender reassignment I know is an irritation to Yahweh as it is to me and it's rooted in a lack of peace. Peace is given to those who keep His Laws.

John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."

My understanding regarding my responsibility towards God, is to love everyone as God has created all and loves all of us unconditionally with our faults.

Who is without sin let him throw the first stone is the way I believe we need to be not judging others but ever looking to our own faults and shortcomings and what we can do to improve them. We need to cast the beam out of our own eyes first.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Yahweh's Laws are good laws and they cannot be surpassed.
So, you wouldn't mind being a slave or owning slaves? Or if a girl you cared for was raped, the only punishment for her attacker being to pay her father and then marry her? Do you think homosexuals should be put to death?

Personally, Yahweh can have his "laws" that are only for Israel. I have mine. I am for abolishing slavery, punishing (not rewarding) sex offenders and for equal treatment of all within the law (gays, lesbians, trans, etc.)

We've come a long way and we have a long journey ahead. It's still better than a defunct ancient civilization.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I can certainly agree with that, but it has a long way to go to get away from the Bible.

The Baha'i Faith position on transgender reassignment is as follows:
"the global, democratically-elected Baha’i administrative body—the Universal House of Justice—determined long ago that transgender/transsexual gender reassignment should be a private decision entirely left up to the individual and medical experts: "
Read more: Can Transgender People Be Baha’is?

Beautiful and here’s a beautiful quote from that page which sums up how Baha’is must treat EVERBODY.

Just as God loves all and is kind to all, so must we really love and be kind to everybody. We must consider none bad, none worthy of detestation, no one as an enemy. We must love all; nay, we must consider everyone as related to us …. – The Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 267.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
So, you wouldn't mind being a slave or owning slaves? Or if a girl you cared for was raped, the only punishment for her attacker being to pay her father and then marry her? Do you think homosexuals should be put to death?

Personally, Yahweh can have his "laws" that are only for Israel. I have mine. I am for abolishing slavery, punishing (not rewarding) sex offenders and for equal treatment of all within the law (gays, lesbians, trans, etc.)

We've come a long way and we have a long journey ahead. It's still better than a defunct ancient civilization.

Well, we mostly agree. But I don't know about punishing. That depends on what you actually mean by that. :)
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I wish to repeat this quote to everyone out there or here to know you are welcomed and loved unconditionally. This is the attitude I think we should all have towards anyone.

Just as God loves all and is kind to all, so must we really love and be kind to everybody. We must consider none bad, none worthy of detestation, no one as an enemy. We must love all; nay, we must consider everyone as related to us …. – The Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 267.
 

Mark Charles Compton

Pineal Peruser
So how should a teacher in 1st grade handle a kid, which asks: Tommy has 2 mothers. One of them is trans. What is that?
If I were the teacher, I would involve my school principal or administrator as well as both of Tommy's mothers and all of the generic parent-guardian/s of vanilla kid #1. I would request all parties involved if we could have an open dialogue in order to attain understanding and remove misunderstandings of one another.

I hope there are procedures, at least within some school districts, already implemented from the understanding that such an event could transpire. It is 2022...
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I wish to repeat this quote to everyone out there or here to know you are welcomed and loved unconditionally. This is the attitude I think we should all have towards anyone.

Just as God loves all and is kind to all, so must we really love and be kind to everybody. We must consider none bad, none worthy of detestation, no one as an enemy. We must love all; nay, we must consider everyone as related to us …. – The Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 267.

Well, I treat everybody as human, but I don't love everybody. To me there is a middle ground between hate and love in some cases.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Well, we mostly agree. But I don't know about punishing. That depends on what you actually mean by that. :)
Sex offenders? Time served, probation/parole and therapy. Sex offender therapy treatment is important and shouldn't be viewed as punishment.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
If I were the teacher, I would involve my school principal or administrator as well as both of Tommy's mothers and all of the generic parent-guardian/s of vanilla kid #1. I would request all parties involved if we could have an open dialogue in order to attain understanding and remove misunderstandings of one another.

I hope there are procedures, at least within some school districts, already implemented from the understanding that such an event could transpire. It is 2022...

Well, yes, in some parts of the world that would work. :)
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
If you actually did you would actually be.

I know you're being a smart aleck, btw.
That nonsense.. identifying as someone I'm not will never make me that person. I can identify as a pink unicorn as much as I want, doesn't make it so. Same thing for identifying as the opposite sex.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I heard something this week that caused me concern. As many of you know, there is a lot of change going on in our societies regarding gender rights and how someone identifies. As a mental health support worker, I’ve noticed this has come down in to my very own workplace. Women identifying as men, men identifying as women, and everything in between. You have to be careful nowadays not to call someone who is clearly woman ‘she’, or ‘her’ for fear of upsetting them. My normal choice of action is to avoid those who identify in this way. Nowadays, a person’s perceived identity is very important to them. Being mis-identified (accidentally or on purpose) is uncomfortable and can be offensive (and can be perceived as a form of harassment). Calling what is clearly a grown man, with a beard, and a low voice a ‘man’, or a ‘he’ could get you involved in an altercation.

What caught my attention was the story of a man who committed a crime, and during sentencing he said he identifies as a woman, so, he was sent to a woman’s prison. You can probably realize that such wouldn’t end well. He got several of the women there pregnant. I sigh and I pray about the evil situation we face in the world, all because Yahweh’s Word has been rejected. Yahweh has said male and female, created he them in Genesis 1:27, but people want to identify as something other than that which they were born as. Can’t people see that this confusion we are reaping, which comes from rejection of Yahweh’s Law, is getting out of hand? Men competing in women’s sports and winning all the games. How about people of a certain race, identifying as another race? Or people of a certain age, identifying as a different age to what they are? Can’t people see this is getting out of hand?

What gets me is this is even affecting children. Children are even claiming to identify as the opposite gender to which they are. Children, whose minds are unstable and who don’t even know what they themselves want.

No-one looks at the fact that sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

Further, for those who are unwise enough to support gender reassignment, it might be worth to know that many trans people regret changing their gender. A new term I heard about was de-transitioning. You may have heard it yourself of trans people attempting to reverse their transition to a different sex. The number of young people seeking gender transition is at the highest it has ever been, but little is reported about how many of them regret the decision later, finding they are unhappy with their new gender. There’s even a charity that has been set up called The Detransition Advocacy Network, which aims to provide guidance to trans people who have undergone gender reassignment, but now want to change back to their original gender. I don’t know about you, but I feel the LGBTQ and whatever other letters are added on (I lose track) should feel ashamed. They are pushing for transitioning but they have no idea the damage that it is doing to people’s lives.

How about getting back to the Bible? We can achieve peace with our gender, with our life, when we keep Yahweh’s Law and embrace His Word. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: “33 for Yahweh is not an Elohim of confusion, but of peace.” This world is in confusion and I’m afraid that due to the spiraling conditions of this world, the only thing that will put a stop to this evil will be when Yahshua our Savior returns and rules over this world in righteousness. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. This whole gender reassignment I know is an irritation to Yahweh as it is to me and it's rooted in a lack of peace. Peace is given to those who keep His Laws.

John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."

I realize you might think my question is absurd, but I'm going to ask it anyway. How about you and other Christians mind your own business and stop obsessing over the lives of LGBTQ+ people? I know it's hard for some Christians to keep their religious bigotry to themselves, but you can at least try. As @Left Coast pointed out, there are more pressing issues in the world that you and other bigoted Christians should be concerned about. After reading your OP, it's no wonder why Christianity is rejected by unbelievers.
 
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