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Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Why is it easy for me to believe that I live the same life over and over forever? Aside From the fact that I believe in a ‘chosen’ one who makes that all possible, believing this is easy peasy compared to the magnitude of the universe’s wow factor.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
It sounds like there would not be any real consequences for mistakes, and any successes are repeated. That's a win-win. Also, there's no pressure to make the right or wrong decision, because everything is on a continuous loop. Those choices were already made. Nothing to gain, nothing to lose which if I understand is very zen.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
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Premium Member
Wouldn't it just be easy peasier to just accept that what one experiences with one's sense organs as the end all be all of everything that exists and have no beliefs at all?
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
It sounds like there would not be any real consequences for mistakes, and any successes are repeated. That's a win-win. Also, there's no pressure to make the right or wrong decision, because everything is on a continuous loop. Those choices were already made. Nothing to gain, nothing to lose which if I understand is very zen.
You have it all wrong. There’s really only one life to live.
 

vulcanlogician

Well-Known Member
I believe All of existence rises and falls with the birth and death of one certain man.

Is that man you or somebody else?

And, if that belief happens to be mistaken, do you think there are harmful consequences for holding such a belief?
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Is that man you or somebody else?

And, if that belief happens to be mistaken, do you think there are harmful consequences for holding such a belief?
I take it you think there would be harmful consequences? Think of this though; how would I ever know that I was mistaken?
 

Stevicus

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Why is it easy for me to believe that I live the same life over and over forever? Aside From the fact that I believe in a ‘chosen’ one who makes that all possible, believing this is easy peasy compared to the magnitude of the universe’s wow factor.

I think it's easier to not believe in anything. I just deal in terms of what I know versus what I don't know (along with a certain imaginative curiosity about what might be). Life itself - it is what it is. I'm alive. I eat, breathe, work, survive - along with other assorted things. Whether it means anything or whether there is any kind of "chosen one" or God or whatever it might be - I haven't a clue.

I don't see any real pressing need to know either, at least not on a personal level. I'm comfortable with not knowing some things about the vastness of the universe in which we live. I live my life. Whatever happens is whatever happens.

I guess it would be a drag to have to live the same life over and over. That reminds me of an episode of The Twilight Zone:

 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I think it's easier to not believe in anything. I just deal in terms of what I know versus what I don't know (along with a certain imaginative curiosity about what might be). Life itself - it is what it is. I'm alive. I eat, breathe, work, survive - along with other assorted things. Whether it means anything or whether there is any kind of "chosen one" or God or whatever it might be - I haven't a clue.

I don't see any real pressing need to know either, at least not on a personal level. I'm comfortable with not knowing some things about the vastness of the universe in which we live. I live my life. Whatever happens is whatever happens.

I guess it would be a drag to have to live the same life over and over. That reminds me of an episode of The Twilight Zone:

Not a drag, as death erases all imo.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Oh yes it is my opinion that death erases all.

Erases all just for the one individual, because, the erasure prohibits any knowledge before or after death. The individual is completely oblivious of anything outside of their own lifespan.

Maybe you don't mean all? Maybe you don't mean all for everyone? Are you maybe thinking that God has gifted you with some prophecy about yourself and others?

Just trying to answer the question you asked: "Why is it easy for me to believe that I live the same life over and over forever?"

Maybe it's easy for you because it feels like a prophecy from God?
 

vulcanlogician

Well-Known Member
I take it you think there would be harmful consequences?
No. Not would be but there could be.

Think of this though; how would I ever know that I was mistaken?

One way to know would be to determine that you believed in a contradiction. I'm not saying that you DO have contradictory beliefs. But if you did, identifying those contradictions would point you in the direction of figuring out what's actually up.
 
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