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Reason why the truth wasn’t written.

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
One thing that's undisputable is that we are born, change in various ways and then die.

Yeah, but with Karl Popper and the problem of induction, I don't know that I will die. I predict it as how I understand reality. As for what happens after a person dies, we don't know that, because we can't test it.
Now I believe that when I die, I will be no more, but that is a belief as far as I can tell.
 

Madsaac

Active Member
Now I believe that when I die, I will be no more, but that is a belief as far as I can tell.

Okay I will agree that we 'will be no more'. However, that belief you have is a fact and the same for everyone.

Anyway, in my previous post, did my philosophical reasoning make any sense?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
One thing that's undisputable is that we are born, change in various ways and then die.

Can I try and put a philosophical spin on this. Firstly, my ontological view is one of realism, that life has a start, middle and end. Secondly, my epistemological is objective because it has been observed billions of times.

Well, mine is in short that the idea of knowledge is not different that the idea of God. You can believe in them but you don't have to and there are no evidence for either. They are both in a sense assumptions that can kae sense if you believe in that the assumptions are useful to believe in.
 

Madsaac

Active Member
Well, mine is in short that the idea of knowledge is not different that the idea of God. You can believe in them but you don't have to and there are no evidence for either. They are both in a sense assumptions that can kae sense if you believe in that the assumptions are useful to believe in.

If you don't believe in the idea of knowledge, you may not find answers. In contrast, if you don't believe in the idea of God, you can still find answers.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
When I was a kid, a cool book on ambiogenesis came out, positing that life originated in clay, and later switched to organic, via a process called “genetic takeover”.

I should look that up sometime. It would be fun to reread.
It actually sounds like something some scientists say might have happened that way. Maybe not clay but rather a "chaotic soup," or maybe a rock from outer space.
 
It actually sounds like something some scientists say might have happened that way. Maybe not clay but rather a "chaotic soup," or maybe a rock from outer space.

What I liked about it was that it actually made you think, and the mechanism of genetic takeover was quite imaginative, and provided ways of thinking about lots of things quite outside of the particular subject that it was addressing.

I find stuff that looks outside the box more useful to me than the other stuff.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I see there is ample material given so we can embrace the life to come.

The issue is our own awareness, as just as you are not able to explain to a child in the womb, details of this life, the child in the womb does interact with what it feels and hears from this life it is yet to be born into, we have to listen and feel what is coming to us from the next world.

You may not have read all the material yet, maybe you have not pursued NDE stories?

Regards Tony
Well, we've been able to replicate OBEs in the lab. NDEs are a work in progress, but we'll get there, we'll get there ─ it's just that the brain is an enormously complex thing, and just how a particular brain will behave under particular stresses isn't always easy to foretell,
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
You see God gave us the Bible and other spiritual books in order to teach us about various things, but the topic that I want to discuss is the afterlife. The story of going to heaven in particular is an easy nice way to tell children about the afterlife instead of telling them about the truth imo. The truth being that once the chosen one dies on earth a.k.a. Gods son or whatever you want to call him is when all of existence will restart and everyone will get to live again. God didn’t put this in the Bible because it sounds too crazy and who wants to talk that way to a child? You see, I believe that God had children in mind regarding such matters. Also, I believe another big reason why the truth wasn’t written is because God would’ve had to reveal this “man” which probably wouldn’t be such a good idea for obvious reasons. All of this is my opinion, of course.

I mean, we’re not gonna sit down with our kids and say now honey there’s a certain man on earth that when he dies, it’s gonna cause all of us to disappear and then existence is going to start from the beginning. lol I don’t think so. Think about it.
Now (your) truth is written!
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
What I liked about it was that it actually made you think, and the mechanism of genetic takeover was quite imaginative, and provided ways of thinking about lots of things quite outside of the particular subject that it was addressing.

I find stuff that looks outside the box more useful to me than the other stuff.
I like that expression "genetic takeover." Not that I believe it as it might have been explained, but it's a cute expression and makes sense in a way, similar to how cells grow (takeover) from an embryo to develop legs, muscles, heart, blood, bones, etc. The cells "take over." :)
 
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