Reasons for believing in the Bible as the literal word of God.

[Father Heathen]

The mosaic law cannot be used now by God or men as it was intended. In the not top distant future God will settle all matters. There is no defense for wrongdoing. Which is what the episode was really all about in the Garden of Eden. You surely must understand that people today hurt other people, sometimes without mercy, cruelly.

That doesn't explain why god would forbid many harmless and benign things yet would condone atrocities and injustices?
Such a sick, sadistic, sociopathic portrayal of god. Fortunately, it was nothing more than the wacky imagination of ancient goat herders.

 

[Father Heathen]

I suggest you read and try to comprehend the context of Exodus 21. It is helpful to realize that the men were commanded to give kind consideration to 88 women.

It has no redeeming value regardless of any mental gymnastics you perform out of futile desperation.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The mosaic law cannot be used now by God

I stopped here -- I'd like to know on whose authority you're telling God what He cannot do.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm curious of your opinion on the merits of being self-reliant rather than waiting for someone/something else to save us?

Is anyone really saved who is not self-reliant, who is dependent?

Well, the whole point of a religious institution is to make otherwise self-reliant people dependent.

It's Marketing 101: Convince people that they have a problem, and they'll pay you for the "solution."

 

[YoursTrue]

I stopped here -- I'd like to know on whose authority you're telling God what He cannot do.

Ok I understand your point.

 

[YoursTrue]

I stopped here -- I'd like to know on whose authority you're telling God what He cannot do.

Society has changed. The temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. But thank you for your comment.

 

[YoursTrue]

That doesn't explain why god would forbid many harmless and benign things yet would condone atrocities and injustices?
Such a sick, sadistic, sociopathic portrayal of god. Fortunately, it was nothing more than the wacky imagination of ancient goat herders.

Gun laws have been changed. Would you say people have improved society?

 

[Father Heathen]

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Gun laws have been changed. Would you say people have improved society?

Are you saying god has improved?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Gun laws have been changed. Would you say people have improved society?

If you look at everything? Yes, things have gotten much better over the years. Better morals, better general well being in the world. Much more charity. On going attempts to bring up everyone. That did not exist even fifty years ago.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Society has changed. The temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. But thank you for your comment.

Society has indeed changed.
The Temple in Jerusalem has been destroyed,
the dodo was hunted to extinction,
the Brooklyn Dodgers moved to Los Angeles,
The Beatles broke up,
Adam Sandler keeps making movies.

Granted, these are all unfortunate events, but nothing an omnipotent deity couldn't work around.

 

[YoursTrue]

Society has indeed changed.
The Temple in Jerusalem has been destroyed,
the dodo was hunted to extinction,
the Brooklyn Dodgers moved to Los Angeles,
The Beatles broke up,
Adam Sandler keeps making movies.

Granted, these are all unfortunate events, but nothing an omnipotent deity couldn't work around.

He is going to change things. It was not a real good time when Jerusalem was overrun by the Roman armies. It isn't a real good thing for people to be gunned down in the streets. To make fun of these things is also not a good thing. Yes, things will change in a major way.

 

[YoursTrue]

If you look at everything? Yes, things have gotten much better over the years. Better morals, better general well being in the world. Much more charity. On going attempts to bring up everyone. That did not exist even fifty years ago.

Lol ok. I was hoping that wouldn't be your answer. Enjoy...

 

[danieldemol]

Society has indeed changed.
The Temple in Jerusalem has been destroyed,
the dodo was hunted to extinction,
the Brooklyn Dodgers moved to Los Angeles,
The Beatles broke up,
Adam Sandler keeps making movies.

Granted, these are all unfortunate events, but nothing an omnipotent deity couldn't work around.

What's unfortunate about Adam Sandler movies ?
I can't speak for others but personally I enjoy his humour.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Society has changed. The temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. But thank you for your comment.

See the power of YHWH, the temple was destroyed but Judaism survives. Even persecution by Christians and Hitler was not able to destroy Judaism. Christians are Judaic heretics.

 

[TLK Valentine]

He is going to change things. It was not a real good time when Jerusalem was overrun by the Roman armies. It isn't a real good thing for people to be gunned down in the streets. To make fun of these things is also not a good thing. Yes, things will change in a major way.

Things are constantly changing in major ways.
"More of the same," isn't very impressive, as prophecies go.

 

[TLK Valentine]

What's unfortunate about Adam Sandler movies ?
I can't speak for others but personally I enjoy his humour.

I used to, but IMO, he peaked with The Wedding Singer and has been going downhill since.

 

[Wandering Monk]

You seem to have Christianity mixed up with Islam. It's Islam that believes that the Qur'an is the literal, verbatim word of God (in the original classical Arabic). In Christianity, Jesus Christ is the Word of God, as the opening verses of John make clear - not a book. It's all about Christ, the Person, Who lives and reigns with the Father in the unity of the Holy Spirit, as the prayer goes.

Are you familiar with the Fundamentalist Christian notion of 'verbal plenary' inspiration of the Bible?

What Is Meant by the Verbal Plenary Inspiration of Scripture? by Don Stewart

Don Stewart :: What Is Meant by the Verbal Plenary Inspiration of Scripture?

www.blueletterbible.org

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lol ok. I was hoping that wouldn't be your answer. Enjoy...

Why would you hope that t would not use verifiable facts?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I used to, but IMO, he peaked with The Wedding Singer and has been going downhill since.

I had to go to IMDB and was stunned with all of the crap that he has been associated with. But 50 First Dates was pretty good too.. Click was meh. The rest, I either did not see or have to agree with you on.

 

[YoursTrue]

Why would you hope that t would not use verifiable facts

Things are as messy as they were thousands of years ago. Wars, people killing others randomly, horrible things happening.