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Reasons for believing in the Bible as the literal word of God.

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dybmh

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That kind has not and will never
admit being wrong.

Oh, your kind. the arrogant, the nothing, manipulated, ego-driven, desperate, sleep-deprived, psychologically split, inheritance-richy-richy types?

The ones with a huge blank space in their being that they feed by going to religious forums and make 10 word posts, and recieve little dopamine cookies from equally vacuous automated responders?
 

dybmh

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I do not play history games that way. There are simply too many errors. Which post of yours are you talking about?
thought so. you pretend to be an evidence based debater, but you've got nothing. Nothing more than a costume and faux atheism

ignored. you can keep your "Hail Satans to yourself". Your ignorance is remarkable. How easily you've been manipulated.
 

ppp

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Not overrode but more like allowed ( give a person enough rope and....... )
Nah. That is just an attempt to twist words around in order to avoid the discomfort that they cause you. Every time that Pharoah hardened his own heart the term means that Pharaoh chose to be obstinate and unyeilding. But suddenly when the Pharoah chooses to soften his heart, God steps in to harden Pharaohs heart. And you claim it means something else entirely. Merely so that you can avoid acknowledging that God overrode Pharaoh's free will. This is tare behavior.
 

URAVIP2ME

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Nah. That is just an attempt to twist words around in order to avoid the discomfort that they cause you. Every time that Pharoah hardened his own heart the term means that Pharaoh chose to be obstinate and unyeilding. But suddenly when the Pharoah chooses to soften his heart, God steps in to harden Pharaohs heart. And you claim it means something else entirely. Merely so that you can avoid acknowledging that God overrode Pharaoh's free will. This is tare behavior.
Exodus 8:32: 1st Samuel 6:6 ( <- I know those verses won't be read but it is there whether one reads it or not )
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Nah. That is just an attempt to twist words around in order to avoid the discomfort that they cause you. Every time that Pharoah hardened his own heart the term means that Pharaoh chose to be obstinate and unyeilding. But suddenly when the Pharoah chooses to soften his heart, God steps in to harden Pharaohs heart. And you claim it means something else entirely. Merely so that you can avoid acknowledging that God overrode Pharaoh's free will. This is tare behavior.

yup. because the egyptian citizens were guilty. all of them. for 400+ years. All the Jewish males were to be killed. All the egyptians were complicit. Justice on just that one generation is nothing compared to 400+ years. I though you were supposed to be a bible scholar? Or was that just a lie from a faux-atheist?

No Justice No Peace! Know Justice? Know peace.
 

Subduction Zone

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thought so. you pretend to be an evidence based debater, but you've got nothing. Nothing more than a costume and faux atheism

ignored. you can keep your "Hail Satans to yourself". Your ignorance is remarkable. How easily you've been manipulated.
LOL! No, but thank you for admitting that you are wrong again. I know that you are in awe of my intellect. I do not feel that way about myself. But one thing that I never claimed to be is a mind reader. I have no way of knowing which one of your incredibly numerous mistakes that you are referring to.

It only makes sense to ask what you are talking about. But then, rational thought does not appear to be one of your talents.
 

Trailblazer

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Well there is a self contradictory post. His writings were "what he said".
I said: I never claimed that 'what my prophet said' constitutes evidence.
I was referring to His claims.

That is why I said:
His Writings are 'part' of the evidence but His claims are not evidence of any kind.

His Writings 'in their entirety' are part of the evidence.
The claims that are embedded in His Writings are only a small part of His Writings but His claims are not the evidence that supports His claims.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
LOL! No, but thank you for admitting that you are wrong again. I know that you are in awe of my intellect. I do not feel that way about myself. But one thing that I never claimed to be is a mind reader. I have no way of knowing which one of your incredibly numerous mistakes that you are referring to.

It only makes sense to ask what you are talking about. But then, rational thought does not appear to be one of your talents.

if you won't state the claim and the reason, then you are admitting to be lazy and worthless of response.
 

Subduction Zone

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I said: I never claimed that 'what my prophet said' constitutes evidence.
I was referring to His claims.

That is why I said:
His Writings are 'part' of the evidence but His claims are not evidence of any kind.

His Writings 'in their entirety' are part of the evidence.
The claims that are embedded in His Writings are only a small part of His Writings but His claims are not the evidence that supports His claims.
His writings are his claims. His writings are "what he said". Why is that so hard for you to understand? If you demand formal language of others you must obey that rule yourself.
 

Subduction Zone

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if you won't state the claim and the reason, then you are admitting to be lazy and worthless of response.
No, I am merely stating that I am unaware of which of your countless errors that you are referring to. But it is nice that you still think that I can read your mind. Don't worry, I really cannot see all of your dirty little secrets.
 

Trailblazer

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That kind has not and will never
admit being wrong.
The one who never admits he is wrong is not the one you are referring to.
It is obvious who that one is if one only reads a few of his posts.
One who always has to be right never admits he is wrong.
 

URAVIP2ME

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yup. because the egyptian citizens were guilty. all of them. for 400+ years. All the Jewish males were to be killed. All the egyptians were complicit.
No Justice No Peace! Know Justice? Know peace.
However, some Egyptians did Not harden their hearts and left Egypt with the Israelites.
At the time of Christ those Jewish citizens were blood guilty (Deut. 21:1-9) because they were culpable as to a community responsibility they failed to bring justice to Jesus.
 

ppp

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Exodus 8:32: 1st Samuel 6:6 ( <- I know those verses won't be read but it is there whether one reads it or not )
"Mistress Mary, if you prized my lady's favor at anything more than contempt, you would not give means for this uncivil rule. She shall know of it, by this hand."
"Twelfth Night," Act 2, Scene 3
 

URAVIP2ME

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"Mistress Mary, if you prized my lady's favor at anything more than contempt, you would not give means for this uncivil rule. She shall know of it, by this hand."
"Twelfth Night," Act 2, Scene 3
Yup. I knew there would be No comment on those verses found at Exodus 8:32 and 1st Samuel 6:6
 

Trailblazer

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His writings are his claims. His writings are "what he said". Why is that so hard for you to understand? If you demand formal language of others you must obey that rule yourself.
Claims are who He claimed to be, a Messenger/Manifestation of God who speaks for God.

All of His Writings are not claims.
'What He said' covers a multitude of subjects, and His claims are only a small part of "What He said" in His Writings.

From the Introduction of Gleanings:

“Gleanings is excerpts from various Tablets. In the introduction to Gleanings it explains how it is organized into five parts. Part one, pages 1-46, proclaims this as the “Day of God.” Part two, pages 46-136, concerns the Manifestation of God and His significance. Part three, pages 136-200, deals with basic questions concerning the soul and its immortality. Part four, pages 200-259, concerns the spiritual aspects of the World Order and the Most Great Peace. Part five, pages 259-346, deals with the duties of the individual and the spiritual meaning of life.” Gleanings
 

Subduction Zone

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Claims are who He claimed to be, a Messenger/Manifestation of God who speaks for God.

All of His Writings are not claims.
'What He said' covers a multitude of subjects, and His claims are only a small part of His total Writings.

From the Introduction of Gleanings:

“Gleanings is excerpts from various Tablets. In the introduction to Gleanings it explains how it is organized into five parts. Part one, pages 1-46, proclaims this as the “Day of God.” Part two, pages 46-136, concerns the Manifestation of God and His significance. Part three, pages 136-200, deals with basic questions concerning the soul and its immortality. Part four, pages 200-259, concerns the spiritual aspects of the World Order and the Most Great Peace. Part five, pages 259-346, deals with the duties of the individual and the spiritual meaning of life.” Gleanings
So what?
 
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