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Reasons To Believe In Yeshua/Jesus Christ Our Lord

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Since you don't believe that God created the first man Adam, then of course you can't believe anything else about Jesus in reference to what the Bible says.

Of course I can.
Belief requires nothing other than belief. Belief is easy for humans.
It is doubt that is hard to come by. Not doubt in someone else's beliefs but doubt in your own beliefs.
I suspect I have believed in a greater number of things than you have.
Belief in the Bible, Christianity and the God of Abraham takes nothing. It's only one God.
There are hundreds of Gods one can believe in.
If belief were all that was required to make something true, there'd be more Gods than people walking about on earth.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
so you say. And because it is so precious maybe another time you can get into detail about it.

Sure, God is all powerful right, meaning they can do anything.
So why constrain God to needing to allow God's son to be tortured in order to fix things?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Sure, God is all powerful right, meaning they can do anything.
So why constrain God to needing to allow God's son to be tortured in order to fix things?
He was faithful to God unto death. People tortured him. His sacrifice was himself, not anything else.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Yes, that is your personal belief.



Even the wicked that he created for his own purpose?

"The LORD has made everything for his own purposes, even the wicked for a day of disaster." - Proverbs 16:4 (NLT)

For the record, Bible Hub provides several versions of this verse: Proverbs 16:4.
I believe my beliefs have solid foundations as opposed to just something coming from personal knowledge or experience although those have a great deal of veracity as well.

I believe so.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I believe there ae those who will make the claim but I will know if they are true or not because God will tell me.
So what. I have the same belief that Quob will do the same for me. Unfortunately those sorts of beliefs are highly unreliable. Sometimes when I come to my sense Quob tells me "I never told you that" even though I could swear quob did.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Yes, I once converted tap water into Dom Perignon Champagne. And not into some motor oil wine from the colonies like other losers claim. Yuck.

Convinced?

I can write something about it, if you need evidence.

Ciao

- viole
I believe I need evidence even if for nothing more than entertainment value.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I believe my beliefs have solid foundations as opposed to just something coming from personal knowledge or experience although those have a great deal of veracity as well.

I believe so.
How do you properly test those beliefs? Most people do not know how to do so. They often conflated "Testing one's beliefs" with "Testing God". That is not the same thing at all and should be blasphemy for a person to think so.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
So what. I have the same belief that Quob will do the same for me. Unfortunately those sorts of beliefs are highly unreliable. Sometimes when I come to my sense Quob tells me "I never told you that" even though I could swear quob did.
I believe God is reliable and Quob is not whatever that is.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I believe God is reliable and Quob is not whatever that is.
So what? Beliefs are of little to no value. How would you test your beliefs? If you do not properly test yourself it is very very hard for you to know when you are wrong.

And quob just told me that your God is not reliable. Quob says that he is a bit of a stinker and was kicked out of deity school.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I believe I need evidence even if for nothing more than entertainment value.
I can write something down if you insist.

viole, 3:16: Verily verily I say to you. I converted water into Don Perignon Champagne, unlike losers saying to claim the same with wine with far less quality.

So, that is my evidence.

Not enough? Why not?

Do you have better one?

Ciao

- viole
 
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