Reincarnation

[Franklin]

Hello, I have a question for all who believe in reincarnation or some form of it. How does the population continue to multiply exponentially? where is new life coming from? Is everyone here reincarnated? If we are, it would seem that there would be a finite world population? This is a question that has plagued me during my search, and have not found a reasonable answer. Thanks

 

[Mike182]

Hello, I have a question for all who believe in reincarnation or some form of it. How does the population continue to multiply exponentially? where is new life coming from? Is everyone here reincarnated? If we are, it would seem that there would be a finite world population? This is a question that has plagued me during my search, and have not found a reasonable answer. Thanks

firstly, if reincarnation actually does happen, concider the possibility that you as a current person could come back next as a wolf, or a lamb, or a deer, or an ant, or any other animal.

i believe in reincarnation, but i do not believe it is an instant thing, there and countless numbers of souls not currently incarnate. when we die, our soul leaves the body, it goes on to summerland. it can stay there, it can come back to float the earth as an incarnate spirit, or it can reincarnate.

this counts for the fact that the population is constantly changing

 

[robtex]

From my understanding Ivan Stevenson is considered the leading researcher in the pseudo-science community on Reincanation. His site is here:
http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/personalitystudies/

Personally, he was insturmental in me believing reincarnation was impossible by reading his work. But in the field of people who believe such he is considered the major player if not at least in the top 5.

 

[Engyo]

Hello, I have a question for all who believe in reincarnation or some form of it. How does the population continue to multiply exponentially? where is new life coming from? Is everyone here reincarnated? If we are, it would seem that there would be a finite world population? This is a question that has plagued me during my search, and have not found a reasonable answer. Thanks

This particular question could also be applied to Buddhist rebirth (which differs from reincarnation in certain specific ways). The Buddhist answer is that the earth is not the only world, or realm, where life exists; and rebirth encompasses all life in the universe, not just here on earth. All of these worlds, or realms, are in different stages, so when populations are decreasing in one location, they will be increasing in others; the system is in balance as a whole, but we only see a very small slice of it here.

 

[Druidus]

Hello, I have a question for all who believe in reincarnation or some form of it. How does the population continue to multiply exponentially? where is new life coming from? Is everyone here reincarnated? If we are, it would seem that there would be a finite world population? This is a question that has plagued me during my search, and have not found a reasonable answer. Thanks

Consider the possibility of multiple Realms. New lives can come from a Realm lower than this one.

 

[robtex]

Consider the possibility of multiple Realms. New lives can come from a Realm lower than this one.

Is it really a possiblity without evidence to support it or is it a faith-based proposition---which is one without supporting evidence. I would call it an idea until such time there was merit granted to the idea via evidence.

 

[Druidus]

Is it really a possiblity without evidence to support it or is it a faith-based proposition---which is one without supporting evidence. I would call it an idea until such time there was merit granted to the idea via evidence.

It could be likened to dimensions. Consider the multiple dimensions in String Theory. Realms could easily be just an early interpretation of multiple dimensions. Or multiple universes.

Just because the name differs doesn't mean it's any less likely. It is a religious belief, but it can be likened to actual scientific theories.

 

[Smoke]

Hello, I have a question for all who believe in reincarnation or some form of it. How does the population continue to multiply exponentially? where is new life coming from? Is everyone here reincarnated? If we are, it would seem that there would be a finite world population? This is a question that has plagued me during my search, and have not found a reasonable answer. Thanks

A lot of bugs and dandelions working their way up.

 

[Smoke]

the pseudo-science community

:biglaugh:

Okay, I'll be stealing that phrase.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I have nothing scientific to provide for evidence, per se, but I do have a religious belief that pertains to reincarnation.


I second the explanation that Druidus provided, and that there are not only other worlds in this universe, but other realms, including a ghost realm, the animal realm, and two godly realms. The human realm is just under the godly realm, and is where beings can reach buddha-hood most easily. (bit off topic, sorry)



Karma that has built up, and dependent upon how negative or positive one's actions have been, helps to determine one's next incarnation after death. One can be born into a lower realm or into a higher realm. This is why our human population is always changing.




Peace,
Mystic

 

[Feathers in Hair]

I can offer no scientific proof of reincarnation. I can only ever offer up what I believe happens, and I'm not sure if that would matter in an 'official' debate setting.

 

[Mike182]

I can offer no scientific proof of reincarnation. I can only ever offer up what I believe happens, and I'm not sure if that would matter in an 'official' debate setting.

maybe, but id still love to hear your beliefs on the subject

 

[Franklin]

This particular question could also be applied to Buddhist rebirth (which differs from reincarnation in certain specific ways). The Buddhist answer is that the earth is not the only world, or realm, where life exists; and rebirth encompasses all life in the universe, not just here on earth. All of these worlds, or realms, are in different stages, so when populations are decreasing in one location, they will be increasing in others; the system is in balance as a whole, but we only see a very small slice of it here.

Now there is an answer I have not yet heard advanced. The possibility of life elsewhere in the universe, this does indeed take us down another path. It also does explain the soul problem in my original post. Would it be fair to say the Buddha teaches other worldy incarnation?

 

[Franklin]

Consider the possibility of multiple Realms. New lives can come from a Realm lower than this one.

Do you mean realm like another dimension?

 

[Feathers in Hair]

maybe, but id still love to hear your beliefs on the subject

Okies! But I hope no one asks me to back it up with proof!

I think that the realm of the spirit began simply as a mass of energy. (In the terms of spiritual energy- a soul, ki, whatever one wishes to call it.) This sphere, for whatever reason, decided to shake. It shook like a dog shaking water from its fur, and bits of the energy flew off in all different directions. Each bit is what we would think of as a soul, an individual spirit.

Each is comprised of an 'oversoul'. (A fancy word simply meaning the sum of your nature and the wisdom that you've 'picked up' over your incarnations thus far.) While reincarnation may not hold any truck with linear time, I think that the oversoul does carry a memory of what you've been and, in a sense, what you will be. I think that most creatures, in whatever form they are currently, carry with them the (usually subconcious) memory of the form in which they were first incarnated. (For instance, I've got a friend whose first spiritual 'memory' is of being a rose bush. Thus, all of her other incarnations have been affected by that.)

I don't know if everyone gets reincarnated or not, but I think that the issue with the immense population growth only arises if one believes that only humans have souls.
With all the incredible varieties of Spirit in this realm, alone, we'd be hard pressed not to find souls for the numerous new people that are joining us.

 

[robtex]

:biglaugh:

Okay, I'll be stealing that phrase.

I didn't want to say junk science, butpseudo -science being stated because Dr Stevenson draws conclusion and than builds premises ontop of them without any evidence. The general slang for "scientists" who drawl conclusions and form theories without evidence is either pseudo-science or junk science.

 

[Hacker]

I believe it, it's the only thing that makes sense. I honestly don't believe that we only get one chance and your damned in hell :devil: or heaven:dan: after one try, that's ludicrous to me. I believe that we reincarnate until we reach our ultimate purpse and eventually, we complete our journey and spend eternity in paradise. I also believe there are other dimensions beyond our imagination...like so called, different levels.

 

[Engyo]

Now there is an answer I have not yet heard advanced. The possibility of life elsewhere in the universe, this does indeed take us down another path. It also does explain the soul problem in my original post. Would it be fair to say the Buddha teaches other worldy incarnation?

Franklin -

As long as one is careful to maintain that "other world"ly is not the same as "otherworld"ly as in ghosts or something supernatural, then yes.

 

[Druidus]

Now there is an answer I have not yet heard advanced. The possibility of life elsewhere in the universe, this does indeed take us down another path. It also does explain the soul problem in my original post. Would it be fair to say the Buddha teaches other worldy incarnation?

Druidry, as well, teaches that life likely exists on other worlds within this Realm.

Buddhists and Druids are cool like that. :rainbow1:

 

[Franklin]

Franklin -

As long as one is careful to maintain that "other world"ly is not the same as "otherworld"ly as in ghosts or something supernatural, then yes.

Yes, I was referring to other planets.