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Religion & Family

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
How important is family in your religion and how important is it to you personally?

Personally, I think that the world would be a better place if we had a family-centric worldview (instead of a collectivist or individualist worldview). I honestly believe that Family is the foundation of civilization and progress and as the family goes, so goes the society. Heathenism is a Family-centric worldview. The individual sees themself in terms of their place in the family structure and acquires the obligations of that role. Also, what is good for the self is what is good for the family.
 

jonny

Well-Known Member
From Elder Oaks in the last LDS General Conference:

The theology of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints centers on the family. Our relationship to God and the purpose of earth life are explained in terms of the family. We are the spirit children of heavenly parents. The gospel plan is implemented through earthly families, and our highest aspiration is to perpetuate those family relationships throughout eternity. The ultimate mission of our Savior's Church is to help us achieve exaltation in the celestial kingdom, and that can only be accomplished in a family relationship.
 

jonny

Well-Known Member
Also from the LDS Church:

The Family: A Proclamation to the World
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The First Presidency and Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

We, the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator's plan for the eternal destiny of His children.

All human beings—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose.

In the premortal realm, spirit sons and daughters knew and worshiped God as their Eternal Father and accepted His plan by which His children could obtain a physical body and gain earthly experience to progress toward perfection and ultimately realize his or her divine destiny as an heir of eternal life. The divine plan of happiness enables family relationships to be perpetuated beyond the grave. Sacred ordinances and covenants available in holy temples make it possible for individuals to return to the presence of God and for families to be united eternally.

The first commandment that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as husband and wife. We declare that God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force. We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife.

We declare the means by which mortal life is created to be divinely appointed. We affirm the sanctity of life and of its importance in God's eternal plan.

Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. "Children are an heritage of the Lord" (Psalms 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations.

The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on principles of faith, prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed.

We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.

We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.

This proclamation was read by President Gordon B. Hinckley as part of his message at the General Relief Society Meeting held September 23, 1995, in Salt Lake City, Utah.

 
jonny said:
From Elder Oaks in the last LDS General Conference:

The theology of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints centers on the family. Our relationship to God and the purpose of earth life are explained in terms of the family. We are the spirit children of heavenly parents. The gospel plan is implemented through earthly families, and our highest aspiration is to perpetuate those family relationships throughout eternity. The ultimate mission of our Savior's Church is to help us achieve exaltation in the celestial kingdom, and that can only be accomplished in a family relationship.
I feel there's a pretty strong group of celibate monks that may tend to agree with you, whose greatest pleasure is to serve.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Oh... I want to answer this from a UU perspective (maybe one of my fellow UUs will), but I don't have time this morning and won't be back until Sunday. So, I will just say that it is because of my children that I went searching for a spiritual/religious community and found UU. It is very important to me that they have a spiritual/religious community to grow up in that values the same things I do and I couldn't have found a better match than I did.
 

jonny

Well-Known Member
Now for my own thoughts on the subject. My religion has a very strong emphasis on the family, as demonstrated in the quotes above. Also, the church has a policy that there will be no activities on Monday evenings and encourage the church members to set the time aside for family night. My family did this my entire life.

Probably due to the emphasis placed on family in the church, it is very important to me. I love my family more than anything in the world. Being single in a family-center church can be difficult and depressing. There is nothing I want more in my life right now than to start my own family. For now I'm just enjoying spending time building relationships with my parents, grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles, and siblings.
 

jonny

Well-Known Member
John Eastern said:
I feel there's a pretty strong group of celibate monks that may tend to agree with you, whose greatest pleasure is to serve.
Thank you. It is my greatest pleasure to serve.

What to celibate monks have to do with the LDS church? I doubt that they would agree with our theology.
 
jonny said:
Thank you. It is my greatest pleasure to serve.

What to celibate monks have to do with the LDS church? I doubt that they would agree with our theology.
They would not doubt your sincerity. Plus they make great baby sitters. Wouldn't you think?
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Darkdale said:
How important is family in your religion and how important is it to you personally?

Personally, I think that the world would be a better place if we had a family-centric worldview (instead of a collectivist or individualist worldview). I honestly believe that Family is the foundation of civilization and progress and as the family goes, so goes the society. Heathenism is a Family-centric worldview. The individual sees themself in terms of their place in the family structure and acquires the obligations of that role. Also, what is good for the self is what is good for the family.
Sure, I agree, family is the essential. Like other have said before though, family (for me) means the whole of mankind, and my religion is mostly about treating my family well, so I guess there's no priority; the two are one and the same.
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
John Eastern said:
They would not doubt your sincerity. Plus they make great baby sitters. Wouldn't you think?
Till one of them takes a shining to one of the kids. No "celibate" people or "confirmed bachelors" are going to be watching my kids.

B.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
Till one of them takes a shining to one of the kids. No "celibate" people or "confirmed bachelors" are going to be watching my kids.

B.
I know the times, and the financial burdens, are both very different from when my wife and I had kids.

I'll tell you though, the only people who ever watched our kids (with a one time only occasion) were both my wife and me, or our parents.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
michel said:
Sure, I agree, family is the essential. Like other have said before though, family (for me) means the whole of mankind, and my religion is mostly about treating my family well, so I guess there's no priority; the two are one and the same.

I just wanted to make sure that when I say family, everyone understands that I mean your immediate relations, not the whole world or whatever. Not what you feel your family is, in the abstract... but literally your mother, father, sisters, brothers, cousins, grandparents etc. How important are they to you personally and what do your religions say about family and its' function/meaning/importance.

I just don't want this thread to be turned into one of those One World Unity things.
 
MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
Till one of them takes a shining to one of the kids. No "celibate" people or "confirmed bachelors" are going to be watching my kids.

B.
How bout a female celibate monk, with no teeth, a hump on her back, bad breath and disconjugate gaze? Damn, that's Marty Feldman. How bout him?

Oh, he's dead. Never mind, if you want.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
jonny said:
Now for my own thoughts on the subject. My religion has a very strong emphasis on the family, as demonstrated in the quotes above. Also, the church has a policy that there will be no activities on Monday evenings and encourage the church members to set the time aside for family night. My family did this my entire life.

That's awesome. I'm actually thinking of writing a letter to various Asatru organizations to encourage this kind of tradition.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I think the best example for family life, for other christians, comes from the LDS.

Jesus was of course the best example for the extended family, and included every one in his family.

It is important that the way we love our own families is extend outward to include others.
We may not succede in including every one, but that should be our aim.

Terry______________________
Blessed are those who bring peace, they shall be children of God
 

jonny

Well-Known Member
Darkdale said:
That's awesome. I'm actually thinking of writing a letter to various Asatru organizations to encourage this kind of tradition.
Go for it! I wish that every religion would encourage something like this.

Here is the church's website for "Family Home Evening." It might give you some ideas. The family nights that I remember the most are the ones where we actually did something as a family (like go out and play soccer) - not just had a lesson from my mom or dad.
 

may

Well-Known Member
for anyone who lives to the principles and standards of the bible , looking after ones family would be a bible requirement in a physical ,imotional ,and spiritual way. and God would expect the parents to teach their children about God

And these words that I am commanding you today must prove to be on your heart; and you must inculcate them in your son and speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up .....deuteronomy 6;6-7

Children, be obedient to YOUR parents in union with [the] Lord, for this is righteous: "Honor your father and [your] mother"; which is the first command with a promise: "That it may go well with you and you may endure a long time on the earth." And YOU, fathers, do not be irritating YOUR children, but go on bringing them up in the discipline and mental-regulating of Jehovah Ephesians 6;1-4

Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith 1 timothy 5;8

 

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
Family is what you make it, but we should all recognize our similarity as humans, and realize that we are all brothers and sisters, and really treat eachother as such. Wishful thinking i suppose....
 
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