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Religious guilt

idav

Being
Premium Member
They just give pep talks to keep you in line so you don't ask too many questions and keep you in fear.
Well I have found that a lot of times there is reason to follow it cause its practical, a lot of the kosher stuff. I know atheists that think like that.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Well you asked why would God be interested in what we do. so I'm asking how do we know what God wants?
I think a good start may to quit putting words in its mouth. If we were supposed to be following and worshiping this god, I'm sure there would be something definitive to prove its existence, and it would have left us with something other than a myriad of religious texts that are prone to getting facts of nature and the world wrong, which makes it a reasonable assumption that they must have also gotten the nature of god wrong.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
So your saying God wants your to be jewish. Are you saying God will be mad if you don't abide the 613 torah(old testament) laws?
Ye that's what I was taught

You do realize that God gave a perfect law to imperfect people to keep them humble whilst awaiting their Messiah, not just as an excuse to punish them when they fell to doing wrong?

Psalm 103:8-18:
"Adonai is merciful and compassionate,
slow to anger and rich in grace.
9 He will not always accuse,
he will not keep his anger forever.
10 He has not treated us as our sins deserve
or paid us back for our offenses,
11 because his mercy toward those who fear him
is as far above earth as heaven.
12 He has removed our sins from us
as far as the east is from the west.
13 Just as a father has compassion on his children,
Adonai has compassion on those who fear him.
14 For he understands how we are made,
he remembers that we are dust.
15 Yes, a human being’s days are like grass,
he sprouts like a flower in the countryside —
16 but when the wind sweeps over, it’s gone;
and its place knows it no more.
17 But the mercy of Adonai on those who fear him

is from eternity past to eternity future,
and his righteousness extends
to his children’s children,

18 provided they keep his covenant
and remember to follow his precepts."

This is the God of the Bible.....he is not the ogre in the sky who judges harshly just so that he can punish wrongdoers.
If God "remembers that we are dust" and if he sees us doing our best to keep his laws, he is not keeping score up there. The "fear" we must have of God is not dread, or fear of punishment, but a fear of displeasing someone who loves us...not wanting to disappoint them.This comes out of love, not dread.

They just give pep talks to keep you in line so you don't ask too many questions and keep you in fear.

Anyone who paints God as one who watches us for our mistakes is teaching you lies. You must ask questions...that is how we learn. The answers must resonate with what is in your own heart or they are worth nothing. Fear is a lousy motivation for serving a God of love.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Anyone who paints God as one who watches us for our mistakes is teaching you lies. You must ask questions...that is how we learn. The answers must resonate with what is in your own heart or they are worth nothing. Fear is a lousy motivation for serving a God of love.

And never fear the answers you find.
 
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