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Religious Nationalism in the US

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Since I was born 68 years ago,
Yes, that was a terrible year. :p

It is today that they think that math isn't as important as before. They prefer about sex, racism, CRT, identity rather than teaching critical thinking, math, reading, writing and history et al.
Teaching those are not important?

When the NAZI's took power, they eliminated courses in what is called "social studies" here, thus making it easier for them to brainwash students. You know, "Those who do not learn from history are apt to repeat it".

But if we listen to the likes of DeSantis, any honest study of history that gets into the causes of "slavery", "Jim Crow Laws", "racism" should be eliminated, which is a fantastically logical position for neo-fascists to take.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The photo that triggered you isn't the quote you provided that I was supposed to respond to.
Judging from the buzz words like "triggered" that you're using here and elsewhere, it sounds like maybe you're in a cult. That and your continued accusations that your posts are "hitting a nerve" whenever someone doesn't just eat up whatever you post.

What are you going to trot out next, "snowflake?" "Sheeple?" :rolleyes:

You've still got nothing to say about what I actually said.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Teaching those are not important?

When the NAZI's took power, they eliminated courses in what is called "social studies" here, thus making it easier for them to brainwash students. You know, "Those who do not learn from history are apt to repeat it".

But if we listen to the likes of DeSantis, any honest study of history that gets into the causes of "slavery", "Jim Crow Laws", "racism" should be eliminated, which is a fantastically logical position for neo-fascists to take.

Not the way they are teaching it today.... no.
English teacher's sexuality curriculum showing kids penis pics, ejaculation video has school approval
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Someone has to, amd it's 11th and 12th grade, so 17/18 years old. And, yeah, someone has to so kids learn healthy sexual attitudes, know what safe practices are, get empowered to say no until the individual is comfortable, and so kids know what normal and healthy looks like.
No... that isn't teaching, that is grooming.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
We see have been seeing news reports of conservtives working to eliminate rights that have been established for many decades. Conservatives are moving towards authoritarianism as led by Trump and his corruption, and it is a losing tactic. Conservative moderates don't have a taste for this, so for the far right base to push for corrupt authoritarian leaders is going to lead to more losses in elections. Republicans barely took back the House last November due to the many bad candidates.

I think it was because of the counting system. But, sorry, I don't see conservatives going against rights. On the contrary, Biden regime seems to be against basic rights like freedom of speech, right to own guns, right not to be murdered (=aborted), right to decide what is put to persons own body (vaccine mandates were against Nuremberg code)... ...very tyrannical the "liberals" are.

1. Antifa doesn't use guns. 2. Suddenly you as a consevative are worried about guns?

Footage Reveals Antifa Plot To Kill Americans With Knives, Guns & Bombs (newspunch.com)

By European standards even American liberals are fairly conservative.

:D By what I see, American "liberals" are radically more "liberal" than "liberals" in Europe. And to me the "liberals" look more like insane than liberal.

Arguably public schools, police, social security, public roads, etc. are all socialist in the broad sense, so yes, both republicans and democrats are a type of socialist governing. Our system is called a republic, and more accurately a socialist republic. That probably sounds scary to you.

Socialism is basically legalized theft, unjust and anti freedom. That is why I don't like it. But, I have never heard of US being called a socialist republic. And it has been very sad to look how the land of the free has descend to so low. Socialism is the cancer of nations and eventually destroys them, if it is let to go far enough.

So what do you want as a governing system? A Christian theocracy, a dictatorship?

I think best would be that people are free and independent, make own decisions of their own life.

I would accept small government, if it is to serve people and would be only involved in arranging some basic services equally for all people. These services would be:
1. Justice system and police, to handle only serious crimes like murders and theft.
2. Basic school, to teach how to read, write and count and how the society works.
3. Basic healthcare, to heal people.
4. Basic infra, commonly useful water, roads, sewer system.
5. Government to check these are done in efficient and good way that serve all the people. And governments job should be to serve people, not to be served and the purpose in itself.

Reason why I think those would be acceptable is that they are useful for everyone. And it should be cheaper to arrange the for everyone collectively, if done correctly.

Nowadays governments have become control freaks that want to micromanage everything. I think it is really bad.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Judging from the buzz words like "triggered" that you're using here and elsewhere, it sounds like maybe you're in a cult. That and your continued accusations that your posts are "hitting a nerve" whenever someone doesn't just eat up whatever you post.

What are you going to trot out next, "snowflake?" "Sheeple?" :rolleyes:

You've still got nothing to say about what I actually said.
Contempt prior to investigation guarantees a life of perpetual ignorance. You asked me to respond to a quoted sentence that you invented! Triggered is the right term to use when overly sensitive people whine about posts that they didn't even read.

I would suggest not responding to my posts if you can't be honest.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
If course not, but your views also tend to shame sex and sexuality so why should such a basis be considered?

LOL... You would have to support that with quoted evidence and not just by your personal experience.

God made intimacy (a grade above sex) - and it is a beautiful life-filled convenant act. To be enjoyed.

What we don't do is promote it like the sex dogs do.
 
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Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
LOL... You would have to support that with quoted evidence and not just by your personal experience.

God made intimacy (a grade above sex) - and it is a beautiful life-filled convenant act. To be enjoyed.

What we don't do is promote it like the sex dogs do.

This is a Christian view of sex. Not all Americans are Christian. Instead, public schools need to support education that is based on real, practical, and healthy information (as shown by scientific data rather than traditional mores that aren't shared by everyone) in order to produce an informed rather than indoctrinated citizenry.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
LOL... You would have to support that with quoted evidence and not just by your personal experience.

God made intimacy (a grade above sex) - and it is a beautiful life-filled convenant act. To be enjoyed.

What we don't do is promote it like the sex dogs do.
Killing for spilled seed, killing women who aren't virgins, this sex is wrong, that sex is bad, and often times don't enjoy it because it's strictly for reproduction. Do it as we approve (which has included barring certain positions) or you're doing it wrong and in a way that offends god. Don't have sex with this person or god gets offended. Don't have sex for fun outside of marriage or god will roast you.
And let's not forget America is well known for being sexually repressed throughout the Western world.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Salvation from self isn't for everyone.
That sort of thinking is one of the many problems created by the church so they can sell their "cure" of toxin. There is nothing inherently so flawed or wrong about us we inherently deserve damnation, nothing about ourselves so bad that we must be saved from ourself. This is just the Church talking, and they have a vested interest in repeating "all our righteousness is but filthy rags."
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
This is a Christian view of sex. Not all Americans are Christian. Instead, public schools need to support education that is based on real, practical, and healthy information (as shown by scientific data rather than traditional mores that aren't shared by everyone) in order to produce an informed rather than indoctrinated citizenry.

And, as my link posted, this has not been healthy. It has been detrimental as for all the education that has been given, we have had more problems than solutions as compared to before where identity issues have proliferated whereas they were pretty much negligible before.

then you have the issue of what "informed" means to you and what it means to the parents. Very subjective if not detrimental as school begin to trump parental rights.

So, pretty much, your point is quite mute IMV
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Killing for spilled seed, killing women who aren't virgins, this sex is wrong, that sex is bad, and often times don't enjoy it because it's strictly for reproduction. Do it as we approve (which has included barring certain positions) or you're doing it wrong and in a way that offends god. Don't have sex with this person or god gets offended. Don't have sex for fun outside of marriage or god will roast you.
And let's not forget America is well known for being sexually repressed throughout the Western world.
Goal post change.

Expected.
 
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