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Religious Nationalism in the US

Colt

Well-Known Member
LOL "self destructed"
What nonsense. Oddly enough, that's exactly what he predicted theists would say about him after his death. Thanks for confirming another one of his quotes/beliefs. :)

It's what he said about himself.



WIKI.........In a Vanity Fair piece titled "Topic of Cancer,"[72] he stated that he was undergoing treatment for cancer. He said that he recognized the long-term prognosis was far from positive and he would be a "very lucky person to live another five years."[175] A heavy smoker and drinker since his teenage years, Hitchens acknowledged that these habits were likely to have contributed to his illness.[40]

 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
how many children have you had?
What is this, a contest now? Why are you trying so hard to deflect the conversation?

For all you know, we've been nannies all our lives but never had children of our own. Or we specialized in the psychology of childhood development.
It's what he said about himself.

WIKI.........A heavy smoker and drinker since his teenage years, Hitchens acknowledged that these habits were likely to have contributed to his illness.[40]

He enjoyed his life, lived it to the fullest, and didn't really have many regrets about it. Now we get all kinds of theists doing exactly what he said they'd do, after he died.

Anyhoo, perhaps we could get back to the topic of the thread, despite your obsession with the dude.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You still sound angry.

It was the principle I was sharing... why be such a literalist? Porn is still porn at any teen age.
Educational material isn't porn. Even the kids I was in biology class in Indiana were more mature than that and no one thought "oh my god it's porn" when we learned of the reproduction system. Didn't happen in the health class either (and that was a either a freshman or sophomore class).
And I'm not angry. I'm pointing out it's absurd to claim sex ed is bad, it's destructive to try to prevent it, and when you falsely represent your own link we are under no obligation to take you seriously, and when you're digging your own hole woth these "take some child development classes" and such is just serving to destroy your credibility.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Yes... in your book which is why parents are in an uproar. They aren't your children.
Okay, you just said all teens are basically the same, apparently not realizing we're not talking about 13 year-olds in this thread.

The idea that one must have children of their very own in order to understand these topics is silly and a total diversion. There are many children in my life that I care deeply about. I even used to be a child myself! I even made a point about that in one of my posts, in the part that you completely ignored. And guess what? I care about ALL children, not just the ones that are related to me.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I even used to be a child myself! I even made a point about that in one of my posts, in the part that you completely ignored.

The idea that one must have children of their very own in order to understand these topics is silly and a total diversion.
It's just to silence people when they know they've lost. It's to silence someone when a better reply is not immediately available. It's to silence disagreement, and it's very rude.
I've changed diapers, lost nights of sleep, been there for health and illness, fears and excitements, school and extra curricular events, helped coach sports teams, been there for crushes and heart aches, gave sex talks, so, yeah, that crap is just to silence me especially as I have the education and professional experience to form a better foundation for my views. Doesn't matter, they say. They think I just don't understand. Yeah, actually I do.
Interesting story, had an eight-year-old client, and a few us strongly suspected the client is homosexual. Ok, so maybe those of us who saw this where LGBT of some sort but we picked up on this and that, pieced things together and yeah, turns out the client is homosexual and we saw the struggles of internal turmoil and conflict of realizing this difference and difficulties in accepting and coming to terms with that.
But no, I don't understand. :rolleyes:
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
The Ancient Egyptians didn't have it. Hindus and Buddhists lack it. Celtic and Germanic Paganism both lack it. It's also absent in Oriental religions like Shinto and Tao.
The Egyptians built tombs for the afterlife.

* In Shinto, a religion indigenous to Japan, the concept of salvation is based on the belief that all living things have an essence, soul or spirit known as "kami." Rather than living in a glorified Heaven, kami live among us. Some kami are more powerful than others. Some are even deified. But all kami must be honored. People who die violently, lead unhappy lives, or have no family to care for their kami become hungry ghosts, causing trouble for the living.

* Hinduism includes belief in an afterlife among its basic tenets of the religion. The Hindu belief in an afterlife is a foundational aspect of the religion.

* Buddhism is a religion without a God which is an absurdity. They just believe in death and have a selfish desire to escape suffering in life. Thats about it.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Has nothing to do with Christian base. You don't give a drivers license to a 13 year old you don't show them porn either. Teach, yes. Porn no.

13 year olds often see people drive, see the mechanics of a car, and some even try out driving with (or without) their parents supervising. There are even toy cars kids can use!

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That doesn't mean I advocate showing kids porn. Not at all. But what do you or I mean by porn? I don't think kids should be given Playboys or Penthouses in school. (It wouldn't be fair since I had to sneak peeks at my dad's copies!)

But simultaneously, at some point, kids need to learn about human anatomy and function. Are images simply depicting form and function from a biological perspective porn?

A 13 year old can't legally drive on public roads but surely they can look under the hood of a car and have the mechanics explained to them.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Seems you are mad at the world.
Where have i said anything such thing?

People of faith live at peace with the world and accept their own finitude.
This is surely what you want the world to believe, and some theists are at peace. But there is a lack of consistency among theists in this regard. Look at the far right Christians who lack empathy and tolerance for those they condemn, like gays, minorities, and liberals. Such Christians do not follow what Jesus taught. If you can’t admit this then you have some work to do.

There is no claim that being whipped and crucified was unique, messengers of are often hated without a just cause.
Then what is the source of Jesus’ suffering that believers keep going on about? As noted he had God’s wisdom, so what gives? Just another bogus claim?

God is within, there you will find proof if you can get out of your own way.
I’m not convinced. Prove it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The Egyptians built tombs for the afterlife.

* In Shinto, a religion indigenous to Japan, the concept of salvation is based on the belief that all living things have an essence, soul or spirit known as "kami." Rather than living in a glorified Heaven, kami live among us. Some kami are more powerful than others. Some are even deified. But all kami must be honored. People who die violently, lead unhappy lives, or have no family to care for their kami become hungry ghosts, causing trouble for the living.

* Hinduism includes belief in an afterlife among its basic tenets of the religion. The Hindu belief in an afterlife is a foundational aspect of the religion.

* Buddhism is a religion without a God which is an absurdity. They just believe in death and have a selfish desire to escape suffering in life. Thats about it.
Having an afterlife doesn't mean there is a salvation. Like the Celts, who had no concept of salvation but did believe in reincarnation.
And how nice of you to tell us your true feelings about Buddhism. I'm sure some will be happy to tell you about how absurd your own religion is.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Educational material isn't porn. Even the kids I was in biology class in Indiana were more mature than that and no one thought "oh my god it's porn" when we learned of the reproduction system. Didn't happen in the health class either (and that was a either a freshman or sophomore class).
And I'm not angry. I'm pointing out it's absurd to claim sex ed is bad, it's destructive to try to prevent it, and when you falsely represent your own link we are under no obligation to take you seriously, and when you're digging your own hole woth these "take some child development classes" and such is just serving to destroy your credibility.
1) Who said "Sex ed" was bad? I didn't
2) It is the "porn" education that I am talking about - examples are abundant (if you want them like the post I gave)
3) I am not talking about the reproductive understanding

If we can understand what I am talking about, hopefully, we will have agreement. :)
 
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