Father Heathen
Veteran Member
We were talking about the constitution, and thus government, and christian nationalism wants it to be religiously driven, yes? That's our track; the theocratic train with lady liberty tied to the railroad.
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Religious Nationalism in the US
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Yes.
Then you haven't been reading what I have been saying or you have interpreted what I was saying erroneously.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Which of all your questions were actually valid questions?
All of them. Keep dodging though.
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creativeAll of them. Keep dodging though.
The parents did get their hands smacked.
Even some Dems support Christian Nationalism.
While they're fewer than Pubs, they add to the
risk of theocracy.
Excerpted...
Christian nationalists also make up the base of the Republican Party. “Most Republicans qualify as either Christian nationalism sympathizers (33%) or adherents (21%), while at least three-quarters of both independents (46% skeptics and 29% rejecters) and Democrats (36% skeptics and 47% rejecters) lean toward rejecting Christian nationalism.” In total, “Republicans (21%) are about four times as likely as Democrats (5%) or independents (6%) to be adherents of Christian nationalism.” Some promising news: There are fewer adherents and sympathizers among younger Americans. “More than seven in ten Americans ages 18-29 (37% skeptics, 42% rejecters) and ages 30-49 (37% skeptics, 35% rejecters) lean toward opposing Christian nationalism.” Support is also inversely related to educational attainment.
Audie
Veteran Member
I sure don't want to live where govt is elect4d by people have so little brain power or good judgement that they'd believe in Noah's ark.
Belief in bogus big boats isn't the problem.
(Many such believers want a secular government.)
Evil rears its ugly head when they want their boots on the necks of infidels.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
That's a majority of conservatives in the U.S.
Audie
Veteran Member
Of course it's not the boats per se.
It's the brainless anti intellectuals
being in charge that's concerning.
Hey, the brainless pro-intellectuals
cause their share of problems too!
Dang...we gots a problem.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I'm against religious nationalism. Everyone has the right to their own truth, but never has the right to enforce their own truth on others. A truth should stand on its own merits according to all people's willingness to support it. Laws should be based on rational moral and ethical grounds for the benefit of all people, not just an exclusive religion.
If a nation doesn't serve all people, it's not really a democracy. Christian nationalism has no defense. It's autocratic.
If a nation doesn't serve all people, it's not really a democracy. Christian nationalism has no defense. It's autocratic.
Deism is a rejection of Christianity and its ruler deity.
What secular value do you imagine is being imposed on you? What are you unable to do because of it? None that I can see. You can do everything a Christian wants to do as a Christian.
Christian abolitionists didn't win. Abolitionists did. And as far as twisting scripture to support slavery, we see it regularly here on RF. You know, the stuff about them not really being slaves or that it was somehow beneficent to make them slaves.
Jesus was not an abolitionist, nor did he set captives free.
Straw man. No such claim was made. Also, that's not a de facto Christian principle.
That's a violation of church-state separation and the US Constitution.
Are you imagining a world in which one is free to pick his religion but not free to pick none? Americans uninterested in religion enjoy freedom from religion by law.
It's a bugbear for the Christian theocrats. They lost creationism and state-led prayer in public schools.
Are you implying that as long as they're not going to LGBTQ homes and picketing, that these Christians are being kind, loving, Golden Rule people? That's not how many others see them.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Yes, I think it is a separation of church and state. Not perfect, but I don't think...
"A handful of state constitutions explicitly prohibit those who do not believe in God from holding public office. However, these bans have not recently been enforced because it is generally assumed that they violate the U.S. Constitution’s prohibition on requiring religious tests for those holding public office." (From the Pew Research article.)
...warrants the proclamation that this is a Christian nation.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Here in the States, our national and state constitutions are written in English, but it's not a requirement that we speak only English here. And yes, the vast majority of people who came here were Christians, no doubt, but the 1st Amendment prohibits us from having a national religion.
Thus, if a proposed law is exclusively based on a religious teaching, the courts generally will find them unconstitutional and for good reason, imo. To do otherwise would be like legalizing a Christian form of "sharia" here.
Thus, if a proposed law is exclusively based on a religious teaching, the courts generally will find them unconstitutional and for good reason, imo. To do otherwise would be like legalizing a Christian form of "sharia" here.