Religious Nationalism in the US

[Twilight Hue]

Nationalism, even patriotism, violates Christian principles of brotherhood and universalism.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galations 3:28

Nationalism has a disturbing history of generating wars and imperialism. It's hubris. It's Fascism lite.

Its evolution. We are naturally evolved territorial primates.

 

[Polymath257]

I think "love" is pro-active where as "lack of hatred" can be stagnant. There could be lack of hatred towards a person in need and just pass them by. Love would compel you to do something.

Many times, the 'love' of people who just want to control others is far worse than 'lack of hatred'. Religion often promotes just that sort of 'love'.

 

[Kenny]

Many times, the 'love' of people who just want to control others is far worse than 'lack of hatred'. Religion often promotes just that sort of 'love'.

True... true. Religion does do that and it was love manifest, Jesus, who was righteously angry for those kind of people.

Relationship that is built out of true love is the answer.

Twisted love produces hypocritical religious people. (Even Christians can become that)

 

[Polymath257]

True... true. Religion does do that and it was love manifest, Jesus, who was righteously angry for those kind of people.

Relationship that is built out of true love is the answer.

Twisted love produces hypocritical religious people. (Even Christians can become that)

No religion is based on 'true love' in my opinion. It is much better to be left alone than bothered by those that think they know about love better than others.

 

[1213]

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Do you support religious nationalism? If so, why? If not, why?

I support Christian nationalism, because I think it is better than the other options.

 

[Kenny]

No religion is based on 'true love' in my opinion. It is much better to be left alone than bothered by those that think they know about love better than others.

IMV, it isn't about "I believe I know more about love than you do"... that expression in and of itself, IMV, says that the boaster doesn't know love in the first place.

I suppose that one can come to a conclusion that you suggested about religion. I find that love doesn't produce religion, it produces relationship. For me, Jesus was that vehicle.

 

[metis]

Leftist aren't tolerant. They have their own Godless agenda that they want to impress upon society. Its foolish to assume that the absence of religious influence equates to the absence of an agenda.

So, all "Leftists" are supposedly "Godless"?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No one follows the Mosaic laws entirely. It's actually impossible. The old system with the temple doesn't exist.

They don't follow it entirely because they pick and choose what they'll adhere to, just as they pick and chose what they'll adhere to of Jesus' teachings.

 

[F1fan]

Democracy is tolerant, Leftist aren't tolerant. They have their own Godless agenda that they want to impress upon society. Its foolish to assume that the absence of religious influence equates to the absence of an agenda.

Leftists? What do they have to do with anything? We aren't talking about Cold War Communists.

We are discussing the Christian nationalist extremists who are cracking down on liberty in the USA, like against gay rights, reproductive freedom, opposing public health with disinformation about vaccines, hostility to science and expertise, etc. So focus on the topic.

I support Christian nationalism, because I think it is better than the other options.

What other options are you referring to, and how does Christian nationalism offer an advantage to the entire population of America, including non-Christians. Don't be vague or shy, explain with multiple sentences so we can understand what you are trying argue.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Democracy is tolerant, Leftist aren't tolerant. They have their own Godless agenda that they want to impress upon society. Its foolish to assume that the absence of religious influence equates to the absence of an agenda.

Godless? Ok, whatever. Most LWers are theist.
Or how about you knock off using godless as an insult?

 

[Colt]

So, all "Leftists" are supposedly "Godless"?

No! of course not, but there are functional agnostics within the Left, religious people who tacitly endorse an anti-religious, anti-God agenda by affiliation. They fear being "uncool" by outwardly appearing woke while secretly hiding their Christian Life.

 

[Colt]

Godless? Ok, whatever. Most LWers are theist.
Or how about you knock off using godless as an insult?

Why is Godless an insult if you have faith in God?

 

[viole]

'More than half of Republicans support Christian nationalism, according to a new survey"

This sounds like a terrible terrible position for the US to currently be in. We are not and have never been a "Christian Nation".

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/14/1156...rt-christian-nationalism-according-to-a-new-s


Do you support religious nationalism? If so, why? If not, why?

Christian nationalism sounds like an oxymoron to me. What on earth is that?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Colt]

Godless? Ok, whatever. Most LWers are theist.
Or how about you knock off using godless as an insult?

IMOP, a free, no copyright thesis that represents where I'm coming from.

After Pentecost

 

[SkepticThinker]

Why is Godless an insult if you have faith in God?

Because that's the intention behind it, when used in the way you've used it.

 

[F1fan]

Why is Godless an insult if you have faith in God?

Because we are discussing an issue where the "godless" are more trustworthy than those with "faith in God".

What is being observed in the USA is that Christian Nationalists cannot be trusted.

 

[metis]

They fear being "uncool" by outwardly appearing woke while secretly hiding their Christian Life.

So, you're into mindreading?

BTW, this whole "woke" thing is just so lame, thus reflecting made-up politically-partisan-oriented nonsensical faddish terminology, imo.

 

[Colt]

Because that's the intention behind it, when used in the way you've used it.

The militant anti-theist attitude in todays secularism is just that, its a Godless materialism. Its not merely separation from church and state what we've had for ages, its a separation of religious people from public discourse.

 

[Colt]

So, you're into mindreading?

BTW, this whole "woke" thing is just so lame, thus reflecting made-up politically-partisan-oriented nonsensical faddish terminology, imo.

What's obvious isn't mindreading. Independents just don't want to take a stand.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The militant anti-theist attitude in todays secularism is just that, its a Godless materialism. Its not merely separation from church and state what we've had for ages, its a separation of religious people from public discourse.

Sounds great!