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Religious Nationalism in the US

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
If I remember right, Episcopalians were the majority. I don't remember exact counts.
"Anglican" back then as they eventually changed their name to "Episcopalian".

Pilgrims and Puritans eventually merged to form the "Congregationalists", and then eventually merged again to form the United Church of Christ in much more recent times.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Maybe that 'Christian love' isn't all it claims to be? And maybe it isn't so much love as it is desire to control?
It would be a heart issue. Christian love isn't necessarily God's love but God's love can be expressed in Christians (and even non-Christians). We say we love our spouse, we love our dog, we love pizza... but what is real love?
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Fascism is based on national identity, among other things.

I think that is not true. I think fascism is a way to rule, but it can use any ideology to do so, or to justify its means. I think this is the best lesson about what fascism really is:


I recommend everyone to watch it.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I don't see any reason to call antifa tolerate. They use tyrannical violence to suppress everyone to their will.
Incorrect. Antifa is a small, voluntary group that has no central organization. They do use protest and force against violent and oppressive right wing extremists, whi include racists. They oppose no one else.

And there is an irony of being intolerant of racists, who themselves are intolerant. In such cases we have to look at the beliefs and principles of both sides. Surely you can see that being a racist and opposing basic freedoms for all people is a negative in a nation that supposedly is about freedom, yes? As society becomes more tolerant over all, and allowing gays, minorities, and other religions to enjoy the freedom white Christians take for granted we see some of the white Christians feeling insecure and want to push back. Antifa oposes such folks. It's odd the white Christians, often male, don't behave as if they are confident a God is on their side.

Until Christian extremists start acting like Jesus they will face push back from a society that is becoming more Christ-like, even as Christianity declines.

I think that is not true. I think fascism is a way to rule, but it can use any ideology to do so, or to justify its means.
I notice you offer no explanation why you think facism is the way to rule. Do you not have any practical defense for facsim in your own words. The video is "based" on true events? That means we have to do fact-checking in case the production is propaganda, a medium popular with facists, which is your preferred governing style. Videos are left to personal interpretations. Facism has many negative elements, including corruption, propaganda, and violation of civil rights and violence.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It would be a heart issue. Christian love isn't necessarily God's love but God's love can be expressed in Christians (and even non-Christians). We say we love our spouse, we love our dog, we love pizza... but what is real love?
As you well know, the Greeks have many words meaning "love" of various sorts, and one of my teachers said that "agape" actually deals with having love for others and for all that thoroughly permeates our own being. This I believe is what Jesus may be referring to in his analogy of trying to enter through the small gate. IOW, it's tough as we even have to love those who may hurt us or even hate us and try to do damage.

I'm still working on this, btw. :emojconfused:
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
As you well know, the Greeks have many words meaning "love" of various sorts, and one of my teachers said that "agape" actually deals with having love for others and for all that thoroughly permeates our own being. This I believe is what Jesus may be referring to in his analogy of trying to enter through the small gate. IOW, it's tough as we even have to love those who may hurt us or even hate us and try to do damage.

I'm still working on this, btw. :emojconfused:
I can only say I am a work in progress... but when I am with Him then I will be like Him. Love is a never-ending effort.

Be well and have a great God-filled Sunday!
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Incorrect. Antifa is a small, voluntary group that has no central organization. They do use protest and force against violent and oppressive right wing extremists, ...

I have seen only Antifa being violent and oppressive.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I have seen only Antifa being violent and oppressive.
FOX isn't going to cover their pot luck get togethers.

They are aggressive against facists who are marching to actually oppress others, like gays, black people, Jews, and liberals. Antifa fights for human rights, albeit in a way that matches the people they oppose: facists.

Are you a facist yourself? Why are you critical of those who push back against facists?
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
My guess would be there's 30 to 50 percent of the student body who don't buy into this and believe it, but they know they just have to show up and bite their tongue and bide their time," one of these instructors said
Progressives: Some language is offensive.
Conservatives: Nonsense. Watch us get offended over changing some words.
 
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