Religious or non religious, when do you think america collectively lost its moral compass?

[spiros]

politicians and regulators looked the other way when the harrowing opioid crisis began to depopulate america.

poor Michigan children, who were touted for their excellent intellectual skills, drank deadly lead tainted water that caused them to have irreversible brain development disabilities.


with this being just a few example of many crises, when do you think america lost its moral compass?

And do you think that one is being too optimistic to think that ethics will be implemented in the future? Or does America have the possibility to establish a moral compass that assures fair justice, opportunity, due process and human rights? with everything be deregulated with loopholes and business influence enthralled, is there a possibility to even consider ethics?

i wrote this on purpose. i am not trying to be an intellectual so excuse unedited grammar

 

[bobhikes]

politicians and regulators looked the other way when the harrowing opioid crisis began to depopulate america.

poor Michigan children, who were touted for their excellent intellectual skills, drank deadly lead tainted water that caused them to have irreversible brain development disabilities.


with this being just a few example of many crises, when do you think america lost its moral compass?

And do you think that one is being too optimistic to think that ethics will be implemented in the future? Or does America have the possibility to establish a moral compass that assures fair justice, opportunity, due process and human rights? with everything be deregulated with loopholes and business influence enthralled, is there a possibility to even consider ethics?

i wrote this on purpose. i am not trying to be an intellectual so excuse unedited grammar

Humans through out history have had a problem putting ethics in front of wealth and power. More often then not wealth and power win. There is not a time in history where ethics was put at the for front. There is not an organization, government or religion that does not put wealth and power as the main concern. Is America losing its moral compass, no it never had one.

 

[Altfish]

When the evangelical Christians bought into Regan and have followed the GOP despite what horrendous things they get up to.

 

[Twilight Hue]

politicians and regulators looked the other way when the harrowing opioid crisis began to depopulate america.

poor Michigan children, who were touted for their excellent intellectual skills, drank deadly lead tainted water that caused them to have irreversible brain development disabilities.


with this being just a few example of many crises, when do you think america lost its moral compass?

And do you think that one is being too optimistic to think that ethics will be implemented in the future? Or does America have the possibility to establish a moral compass that assures fair justice, opportunity, due process and human rights? with everything be deregulated with loopholes and business influence enthralled, is there a possibility to even consider ethics?

i wrote this on purpose. i am not trying to be an intellectual so excuse unedited grammar

I don't know about moral compass. I think it's a facade from a once cloistered public until social media came on the scene and revealed to people how the world really is.

I think it might have been a little too fast for some people.

It'll take time to adjust and adapt. Once we do, I think things will settle down somewhat over the course of time.

 

[spiros]

Humans through out history have had a problem putting ethics in front of wealth and power. More often then not wealth and power win. There is not a time in history where ethics was put at the for front. There is not an organization, government or religion that does not put wealth and power as the main concern. Is America losing its moral compass, no it never had one.

What I meant by a loss of a collective moral compass is the desensitization of deregulation and corruption. It just seems that there is no mass moral compass to things such as the constitutional loopholes of government and law enforcement surveillance; the deregulation of the financial sector and commerce; and the steady flow of municipal, state and federal corruption. It just seems that America has become so desentized that it had lost its collective moral compass and concern. But then again people have to feed their children, maintain their job security and business partnerships or strive for their promotion.


I know there is no such thing as a collective moral compass: just morality or ethics.


Excuse unedited grammar and broken sentences

 

[bubbleguppy]

America has always had a wishy-washy moral compass. America has never been that great about actually insuring the health and safety of people. Could you call the mass relocation and killing of Native Americans & mass importation of African slaves moral?

 

[Stevicus]

with this being just a few example of many crises, when do you think america lost its moral compass?

I guess it would largely depend on how one defines "moral compass" and be able to demonstrate when (or if) we ever had a moral compass to begin with.

And the "compass" doesn't really mean that much anyway. A compass is just something that points in a direction; it doesn't mean we actually go there.

 

[metis]

Even though we may not like to hear this, Americans tend to be quite materialistic and violent. OTOH, we often are quite compassionate and "religious". Also, Americans tend to strongly emphasize individualism at the expense of "socialism" (the latter used in its broadest sense), so "What's in it for me?" tends to be more dominant.

To put it another way, we have always been in conflict with ourselves, and sometimes one side of us more wins out and sometimes the other side more wins out.

 

[Muffled]

I believe it happened in the sixties. Rebellion against the Vietnamese war led to rebellion against all authority and moral values.

I believe it is a downward slope that only ends when the world ends.

I believe there is a corollary: a lack of morals leads to a lack of church attendance, a lack of belief in Christianity and Apostasy. We are seeing the fruits of that now

 

[bobhikes]

What I meant by a loss of a collective moral compass is the desensitization of deregulation and corruption. It just seems that there is no mass moral compass to things such as the constitutional loopholes of government and law enforcement surveillance; the deregulation of the financial sector and commerce; and the steady flow of municipal, state and federal corruption. It just seems that America has become so desentized that it had lost its collective moral compass and concern. But then again people have to feed their children, maintain their job security and business partnerships or strive for their promotion.


I know there is no such thing as a collective moral compass: just morality or ethics.


Excuse unedited grammar and broken sentences

America has always been this way. The same complaints you make now were made during slavery, civil rights movements, by women's rights by labor forces by groups opposition to war. This is not the first time America has tried to be an Isolated state. For a period of time it gets better but it always reverts back to nature(survival of the fittest). Corruption and desensitization are human standards no matter the country.

 

[Muffled]

America has always had a wishy-washy moral compass. America has never been that great about actually inxuring the health and safety of people. Could you call the mass relocation and killing of Native Americans & mass importation of African slaves moral?

I believe not but then there was a progression away from the mistreatment of people that may have culminated in the sixties.

 

[Quintessence]

Well yes, I imagine if you only fixate on the examples of things you believe have gone wrong, you would convince yourself that the country has "lost its moral compass" if you're one to frame things in such a fashion. That's about all I get from the opening post.

 

[Stevicus]

I believe it happened in the sixties. Rebellion against the Vietnamese war led to rebellion against all authority and moral values.

It depends on whether one viewed the authorities as being moral. If the authorities were morally bankrupt, then rebelling against them could be seen as an act of morality. The immorality may have come in by failing to follow through - by selling out, giving in, and submitting to immoral authority.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

politicians and regulators looked the other way when the harrowing opioid crisis began to depopulate america.

poor Michigan children, who were touted for their excellent intellectual skills, drank deadly lead tainted water that caused them to have irreversible brain development disabilities.


with this being just a few example of many crises, when do you think america lost its moral compass?

And do you think that one is being too optimistic to think that ethics will be implemented in the future? Or does America have the possibility to establish a moral compass that assures fair justice, opportunity, due process and human rights? with everything be deregulated with loopholes and business influence enthralled, is there a possibility to even consider ethics?

i wrote this on purpose. i am not trying to be an intellectual so excuse unedited grammar

I'm not entirely convinced we had one to begin with.

This is a country founded by bigots and criminals, who decided genocide was perfectly awesome and such.

 

[bubbleguppy]

I believe not but then there was a progression away from the mistreatment of people that may have culminated in the sixties.

This is just out of curiosity, and not meant to assume your stance on the matter: Would you consider the American Indian Religious Freedom Act in 1978 to be a moral, immoral, or morally neutral law? As in, is this a subset of the sort of disruption to the respect of Christianity and authority you believe stemmed from the 60s?

 

[spiros]

This is just out of curiosity, and not meant to assume your stance on the matter: Would you consider the American Indian Religious Freedom Act in 1978 to be a moral, immoral, or morally neutral law? As in, is this a subset of the sort of disruption to the respect of Christianity and authority you believe stemmed from the 60s?

i am writing this purposely- not to sound like an intllectual

I dont run this country nor do i know the consensus.

to ask if it is ethical is to compare it to the us constitution as well as international law and treaties. I think alot of things are wrong. for instance, i think the war on yemen is wrong.
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the constitution ensures the right for americans to practice their culture and intellectually disagree...so i guess people should start there when referring to the american indian relgious freedom act

excuse run on sentences gtammr

 

[JustWondering]

politicians and regulators looked the other way when the harrowing opioid crisis began to depopulate america.

poor Michigan children, who were touted for their excellent intellectual skills, drank deadly lead tainted water that caused them to have irreversible brain development disabilities.


with this being just a few example of many crises, when do you think america lost its moral compass?

And do you think that one is being too optimistic to think that ethics will be implemented in the future? Or does America have the possibility to establish a moral compass that assures fair justice, opportunity, due process and human rights? with everything be deregulated with loopholes and business influence enthralled, is there a possibility to even consider ethics?

i wrote this on purpose. i am not trying to be an intellectual so excuse unedited grammar

I think you are getting ahead of yourself. First you need to show that America ever had a moral compass.

 

[spiros]

I think you are getting ahead of yourself. First you need to show that America ever had a moral compass.

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Note** I wrote this on purpose becaus3 they like to mak3 fun of me

I don't mean this as a morally superior person so please do not assume that i am a saint

I guess I am mentioning the events that started in the 1980s and culminated in modern times of what seems to be peak desensitization.

With horrible violence occurring at places such as schools, unfettered government surveillance that was revealed by Edward snowden, and the bailout of big banks which culminated in big tax cuts years later, one has to think that America is so desensitized that any notion of a collective moral compass or sense of morality is completely gone

People, three decades ago, were not really obsessed or paranoid about their children's safety at school nor were they worried about drinking the tap from flint Michigan.

It just seems that America has become desensitized, losing its collective direction of what is ethically right or wrong.

I practice pacifism but that doesn't make me morally superior than a person who practices violence.

My explanation doesnt make sense

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

I believe it happened in the sixties.

What about the decades of segregation before and during the 60's? What about open sexism that prevented women from getting jobs?

 

[spiros]

What about the decades of segregation before and during the 60's? What about open sexism that prevented women from getting jobs?

Despite the time gap between the 60s and the present, there still remains an obvious glass ceiling that is prevalent in institutions as well as the economy