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Religious Parodies

rojse

RF Addict
I don't mind Religious Parodies, a lot of them are funny. Though at times they can get annoying.

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Is the Jesus picture annoying or funny?
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
Is the Jesus picture annoying or funny?

Oh, to me it's funny. But to someone you is tried of or doesn't like parodies it could be annoying.
Though I posted the picture as an example of a parodies I say the other day.
 

rojse

RF Addict
Oh, to me it's funny. But to someone you is tried of or doesn't like parodies it could be annoying.
Though I posted the picture as an example of a parodies I say the other day.

But while the picture is funny, it also attempts to make a serious point in a manner that is easy to digest - in this case, some people don't see Jesus merely as a great man preaching tolerance, but someone who is going to come back and smite everyone that doesn't conform to a person's particular viewpoint.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
But while the picture is funny, it also attempts to make a serious point in a manner that is easy to digest - in this case, some people don't see Jesus merely as a great man preaching tolerance, but someone who is going to come back and smite everyone that doesn't conform to a person's particular viewpoint.

Well from many peoples understanding(at lest from what I've seen) the Jesus of Rev. is one that will come back to smite.
 

logician

Well-Known Member
I just watched Bill Maher's "Religulous" for the first time, what a revealing and funny movie. It certainly doesn't pull any punches.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
What do the posters on here think of religious parodies? Is this a legitimate way of criticising certain aspects of religious beliefs?
It all depends. Personally, I prefer to see people poke fun at themselves that to poke fun at other people, and there are a couple of LDS cartoonists and columnists that are hysterically funny. I don't mind good-natured parodies by "outsiders," but some of them can be intentionally inflammatory and vicious. I am more entertained by parodies about religious culture than about doctrine. Some things lend themselves to humor but some things should remain sacred.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I think the same thing goes for religions that goes for individuals; if they can't laugh at themselves, they're probably hiding something.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Like what, for example?
For me, it would be things like the temple ordinances. We Latter-day Saints prepare for literally years to be able to go to the temple and understand what we are taught there. When people who have no understanding of these ordinances or of the promises made in the temple ridicule them, nothing good comes of it. It's not the kind of humor that causes a change for the better or that helps people see themselves in a new light. All it does is to make people feel bad. I guess I've just never found pleasure in hurting other people, and I can't understand people who do.
 

logician

Well-Known Member
For me, it would be things like the temple ordinances. We Latter-day Saints prepare for literally years to be able to go to the temple and understand what we are taught there. When people who have no understanding of these ordinances or of the promises made in the temple ridicule them, nothing good comes of it. It's not the kind of humor that causes a change for the better or that helps people see themselves in a new light. All it does is to make people feel bad. I guess I've just never found pleasure in hurting other people, and I can't understand people who do.

Unfortunately, this same logic can be used to keep people from questioning anyone's entire belief system, basically saying it will insult them to have anything questioned ( and many people do). If nobody ever dares question something, this is tantamount to fascism.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Unfortunately, this same logic can be used to keep people from questioning anyone's entire belief system, basically saying it will insult them to have anything questioned ( and many people do). If nobody ever dares question something, this is tantamount to fascism.
I'm not following your logic. Sorry. What does ridicule have to do with honest scholarship and inquiry?
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
What do the posters on here think of religious parodies? Is this a legitimate way of criticising certain aspects of religious beliefs?
There's not enough about Patrickism and it's ironic because one of the religion's strongest tenets is for one to be able to laugh at one self.
 

Smoke

Done here.
What do the posters on here think of religious parodies? Is this a legitimate way of criticising certain aspects of religious beliefs?
I think it's not only a good way of satirizing and criticizing bad religion, but also a good way of being religious. A tendency to be too solemn and uptight about a religion is a problem in almost all religions, and lightening up a little (or a lot) would be a great improvement.

One of the best things ever to happen to Orthodox Christianity lately is The Onion Dome, and especially Father Vasiliy Vasilievich, pastor of Sts. Vladimir and Olga and Boris and Gleb Russian Orthodox Church. (Though Father Vasiliy, like Archie Bunker, has lost a little of his edge over time.)
Dear Father Vasiliy,

I have always wanted to be a nun. But lately I have been enjoying being around boys, and talking with them, and dining with them, holding hands with them, and sometimes even kissing them. The problem is, eventually I realize that I’m not really happy doing these things, and can’t imagine being married to one of these bozos for the rest of my life. And yet that’s what everybody expects me to do. People scoff at me and deride my desire to become a nun. What should I do?

Signed, Conflicted in Connecticut

Dear Connecticut,

Become nun.


* * *

Dear Father Vasiliy,

My mother keeps trying to run my life. After I moved out, she insisted on selecting the curtains for my apartment, and arranging all the furniture in my living room. She calls me every day to let me know what I am doing wrong in my life, and what I should fix myself for dinner. She keeps scaring off my boyfriends because none of them can imagine having such a wretched mother-in-law. What should I do?

Signed, Fed Up in Fredricksburg

Dear Fredricksburg,

Become nun.


* * *

Dear Father Vasiliy,

Is becoming a nun really the answer to all of life’s questions?

Signed, Confused in Christchurch

Dear Christchurch,

No of course this is not only answer. Is also becoming monk, depending on one’s gender.

Was it internet forum in XIX century Russia? No, it was not! Is outrage!
 
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Smoke

Done here.
But anyway, my thoughts wandered mid-post a couple posts back. When I said parody is a good way of being religious, I didn't really mean things like Father Vasiliy, I mean parody as religion. One sees a bit of this in some expressions of Buddhism and Taoism, and I think it should go further. I think Discordianism, for instance, is a perfectly good religion for anybody to embrace, not just as satire, but actually as a way of being religious.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Has anyone watched Moral Orel on Adult Swim. It's great religious parody without engaging in denigration of religion. Actually this last season of the series is very intelligent. A stop motion animation of less than 15 minutes per episode that actually looks at the characters involved in the story including Orel, a child living by the religion's creed (literally), marital dysfunctions, a lesbian who runs a tattoo parlor, a priest who is the father of the lesbian, etc.

It's a great show because it doesn't outright bash religion but looks at the dysfunctions that affects us all as well as showing that within those dysfunctions we all share the same characteristics. A great program that will unfortunately no longer be with us.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
Has anyone watched Moral Orel on Adult Swim. It's great religious parody without engaging in denigration of religion. Actually this last season of the series is very intelligent. A stop motion animation of less than 15 minutes per episode that actually looks at the characters involved in the story including Orel, a child living by the religion's creed (literally), marital dysfunctions, a lesbian who runs a tattoo parlor, a priest who is the father of the lesbian, etc.

It's a great show because it doesn't outright bash religion but looks at the dysfunctions that affects us all as well as showing that within those dysfunctions we all share the same characteristics. A great program that will unfortunately no longer be with us.
Frubals for gnomon if you tell me what 1960's stop motion children's show Moral Orel draws inspiration from (no coaching from the audience please).
 
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