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Religious Thought

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
New study links intrinsic religious motivation to higher-level patterns of thought

'" In the study, 630 adults from from 48 countries completed a cognitive assessment in which they were asked to pick a phrase that best described a given behavior. They had the choice of picking a high-level description (which focused on why the action was performed) or a low-level description (which focused on mechanistic aspects of the action.) For example, one item asked whether “reading” was better described as “Gaining knowledge” or “Following lines of print.” ...

The researchers found that religious people with stronger intrinsic religious motivation and stronger extrinsic-personal religious motivation tended to also have stronger spiritual beliefs, which in turn was associated with thinking according to higher-level actions.

In other words, participants who agreed with statements such as “I have often had a strong sense of God’s presence” (intrinsic religiosity) and “Prayer is for peace and happiness” (extrinsic-personal religiosity) were more likely to describe reading as “Gaining knowledge,” and this relationship was mediated by the strength of spiritual beliefs, such as the belief that God is an all-pervading presence.

But extrinsic-social religiosity (“I go to church mainly because I enjoy seeing people I know there”) was unrelated to these patterns of thought. Moreover, among non-religious participants, there was no link between religious motivations and higher-order thought patterns....

“As with any research, my study has flaws,” Michaels explained. “It used a survey method, which means we cannot conclude religion and spirituality cause people to think in a more meaningful way. It’s merely a relationship. Future work that uses experimental techniques are needed to identify if there is a cause-effect relationship.” ""
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
630 is a very small sample size. I'd like to see this replicated with more folks.

It's a larger sample size then many studies of this type, but larger is usually better, yes. I'd like to see more studies to address causality, as well.

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Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
New study links intrinsic religious motivation to higher-level patterns of thought

'" In the study, 630 adults from from 48 countries completed a cognitive assessment in which they were asked to pick a phrase that best described a given behavior. They had the choice of picking a high-level description (which focused on why the action was performed) or a low-level description (which focused on mechanistic aspects of the action.) For example, one item asked whether “reading” was better described as “Gaining knowledge” or “Following lines of print.” ...

The researchers found that religious people with stronger intrinsic religious motivation and stronger extrinsic-personal religious motivation tended to also have stronger spiritual beliefs, which in turn was associated with thinking according to higher-level actions.

In other words, participants who agreed with statements such as “I have often had a strong sense of God’s presence” (intrinsic religiosity) and “Prayer is for peace and happiness” (extrinsic-personal religiosity) were more likely to describe reading as “Gaining knowledge,” and this relationship was mediated by the strength of spiritual beliefs, such as the belief that God is an all-pervading presence.

But extrinsic-social religiosity (“I go to church mainly because I enjoy seeing people I know there”) was unrelated to these patterns of thought. Moreover, among non-religious participants, there was no link between religious motivations and higher-order thought patterns....

“As with any research, my study has flaws,” Michaels explained. “It used a survey method, which means we cannot conclude religion and spirituality cause people to think in a more meaningful way. It’s merely a relationship. Future work that uses experimental techniques are needed to identify if there is a cause-effect relationship.” ""

I don't know about this study. I went to the original article ad cannot find how the correlate higher level of thinking. we are give the term that it is implicit and a list of references. Secondarily the participants are predominately Abrahamic in belief. Even the number of atheist's were low in number and where were the pagans and druid???? They were left out. So the group with the clearly higher level of thinking were not even included in the study??? Another example of Abrahamic suppression of other beliefs.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I don't know about this study. I went to the original article ad cannot find how the correlate higher level of thinking. we are give the term that it is implicit and a list of references. Secondarily the participants are predominately Abrahamic in belief. Even the number of atheist's were low in number and where were the pagans and druid???? They were left out. So the group with the clearly higher level of thinking were not even included in the study??? Another example of Abrahamic suppression of other beliefs.

I wouldn't call it abrahamic oppression, Pagans represent around >1% of world beliefs (I don't count indigenous here). If you picked up the phone and called 1000 names at random (if using a randomized sample), you're bound to get probably 910 Christians, to everything else. I was happy to see that the author of the study points to some of these methodological issues in the article, so the study can at least be replicated and fine tuned to hopefully correct for it's shortcomings.

Edit1: No study is without it's shortcomings.

Edit2: I took a peek at the study article, there is a section on correlation analysis on page 8, is that what you were looking for?
 
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The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
It would be more interesting if there were a correlation between "higher level patterns of thought" and intelligence.
In my opinion

I care more about the ability to think deeply about a multitude of topics, then to be "intelligent".
Intelligence most often comes down to rote memorization, as opposed to actual practical application.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
New study links intrinsic religious motivation to higher-level patterns of thought

'" In the study, 630 adults from from 48 countries completed a cognitive assessment in which they were asked to pick a phrase that best described a given behavior. They had the choice of picking a high-level description (which focused on why the action was performed) or a low-level description (which focused on mechanistic aspects of the action.) For example, one item asked whether “reading” was better described as “Gaining knowledge” or “Following lines of print.” ...

The researchers found that religious people with stronger intrinsic religious motivation and stronger extrinsic-personal religious motivation tended to also have stronger spiritual beliefs, which in turn was associated with thinking according to higher-level actions.

In other words, participants who agreed with statements such as “I have often had a strong sense of God’s presence” (intrinsic religiosity) and “Prayer is for peace and happiness” (extrinsic-personal religiosity) were more likely to describe reading as “Gaining knowledge,” and this relationship was mediated by the strength of spiritual beliefs, such as the belief that God is an all-pervading presence.

But extrinsic-social religiosity (“I go to church mainly because I enjoy seeing people I know there”) was unrelated to these patterns of thought. Moreover, among non-religious participants, there was no link between religious motivations and higher-order thought patterns....

“As with any research, my study has flaws,” Michaels explained. “It used a survey method, which means we cannot conclude religion and spirituality cause people to think in a more meaningful way. It’s merely a relationship. Future work that uses experimental techniques are needed to identify if there is a cause-effect relationship.” ""


Small sample size, and strongly leaning to abrahamic religions. I would expect the "religious" answers to be prevalent.

I would like to see a similar study more representative of the world population and with questions not focussed on particular religious beliefs/actions.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
New study links intrinsic religious motivation to higher-level patterns of thought

'" In the study, 630 adults from from 48 countries completed a cognitive assessment in which they were asked to pick a phrase that best described a given behavior. They had the choice of picking a high-level description (which focused on why the action was performed) or a low-level description (which focused on mechanistic aspects of the action.) For example, one item asked whether “reading” was better described as “Gaining knowledge” or “Following lines of print.” ...

The researchers found that religious people with stronger intrinsic religious motivation and stronger extrinsic-personal religious motivation tended to also have stronger spiritual beliefs, which in turn was associated with thinking according to higher-level actions.

In other words, participants who agreed with statements such as “I have often had a strong sense of God’s presence” (intrinsic religiosity) and “Prayer is for peace and happiness” (extrinsic-personal religiosity) were more likely to describe reading as “Gaining knowledge,” and this relationship was mediated by the strength of spiritual beliefs, such as the belief that God is an all-pervading presence.

But extrinsic-social religiosity (“I go to church mainly because I enjoy seeing people I know there”) was unrelated to these patterns of thought. Moreover, among non-religious participants, there was no link between religious motivations and higher-order thought patterns....

“As with any research, my study has flaws,” Michaels explained. “It used a survey method, which means we cannot conclude religion and spirituality cause people to think in a more meaningful way. It’s merely a relationship. Future work that uses experimental techniques are needed to identify if there is a cause-effect relationship.” ""
I'd like to know what is meant by "...a higher level of thought"
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
Small sample size, and strongly leaning to abrahamic religions. I would expect the "religious" answers to be prevalent.

I would like to see a similar study more representative of the world population and with questions not focussed on particular religious beliefs/actions.

Especially in regards to these religions where poetic, older language is used in the pages of it's holy book and in it's sermons on a regular basis. I'd be curious to know if this carried on over to something like, say, Shintoism.
 
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