Repentance

[Leo613]

How does repentance work? If we keep on doing something does god forgive us? And is it wiped clean forever each time or is it like writing on paper and when there's a mistake or bad thing and we repent god rubs it out but their remains a mark. Does he punish us for the bad things we do or does he forgive if we repent?

 

[Godobeyer]

How does repentance work? If we keep on doing something does god forgive us? And is it wiped clean forever each time or is it like writing on paper and when there's a mistake or bad thing and we repent god rubs it out but their remains a mark. Does he punish us for the bad things we do or does he forgive if we repent?

in Islam view , God accept repentance .

that's depend , if it's about God/person relation , that's fixed by pray ,fasting , ...etc , and ask the forgiveness from God

IF its about a person with others person(s) , for exemple : He steal someone , he rape someone ...etc he fixed (by return the money ) he ask the forgiveness from that person(s) first, than ask the forgiveness from God .

 

[FearGod]

How does repentance work? If we keep on doing something does god forgive us? And is it wiped clean forever each time or is it like writing on paper and when there's a mistake or bad thing and we repent god rubs it out but their remains a mark. Does he punish us for the bad things we do or does he forgive if we repent?

If keeping on doing it then why asking for repentance ?!

 

[Leo613]

If keeping on doing it then why asking for repentance ?!

Well we're all human and we make mistakes we're not perfect. We have a limitation e.g. some people are always late for work but we can't help it so we want to be forgiven

 

[FearGod]

Well we're all human and we make mistakes we're not perfect. We have a limitation e.g. some people are always late for work but we can't help it so we want to be forgiven

Yes we're just humans, but doing mistakes intentionally then asking for repentance doesn't make any sense.

 

[Leo613]

Yes we're just humans, but doing mistakes intentionally then asking for repentance doesn't make any sense.

Not intended we can't help it we don't know how to change like people who smoke can't help it

 

[rusra02]

How does repentance work? If we keep on doing something does god forgive us? And is it wiped clean forever each time or is it like writing on paper and when there's a mistake or bad thing and we repent god rubs it out but their remains a mark. Does he punish us for the bad things we do or does he forgive if we repent?

I believe a person who is truly repentant over some wrong they commit will not make a practice of that wrong. The Bible clearly teaches that God forgives those who repent. (Psalm 103:2,3) But he does not shield sinners from the consequences of their sin. For example, a man may commit adultery and be sincerely repentant (King David is an example). God may forgive this man, but still he may suffer the effects of his wrongdoing. His wife may leave him, he may contract an STD, or father a child. I do not believe God is punishing the sinner. Rather, as Galatians 6:7 states; "Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a person is sowing, this he will also reap."

 

[FearGod]

Not intended we can't help it we don't know how to change like people who smoke can't help it

By willingness we can.

 

[sojourner]

How does repentance work? If we keep on doing something does god forgive us? And is it wiped clean forever each time or is it like writing on paper and when there's a mistake or bad thing and we repent god rubs it out but their remains a mark. Does he punish us for the bad things we do or does he forgive if we repent?

If you "keep on doing it," then you haven't really repented. Repentance is to "turn your life around." If you're making the same mess, how is that "turning your life around?"

 

[sojourner]

Not intended we can't help it we don't know how to change like people who smoke can't help it

Yes, they can. Addiction is successfully dealt with all the time.

 

[Thief]

I see a glimmer of the pivot point.
Repent IS a change of mind and heart.

If your hand does anything at all.....
it's because you thought you should.....or you felt like it.

How can you be trusted if you misbehave....as your Master might be attending elsewhere.

It is written....
Blessed is the servant who is found doing his Master's will.

 

[Leo613]

Yes, they can. Addiction is successfully dealt with all the time.

If that was the case there would be no smokers clearly alot of people can't stop

 

[NathanShepard8888]

Repent is literally to "turn" . So not only are they to stop but they are to turn away from it.

If that was the case there would be no smokers clearly alot of people can't stop

Apparently many people like to smoke.

 

[viole]

If that was the case there would be no smokers clearly alot of people can't stop

I can stop smoking. Easy. I must have done it 100 times.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Norman]

How does repentance work? If we keep on doing something does god forgive us? And is it wiped clean forever each time or is it like writing on paper and when there's a mistake or bad thing and we repent god rubs it out but their remains a mark. Does he punish us for the bad things we do or does he forgive if we repent?

Norman: Leo613, since you are a Jew I will stay in your holy writ. Most Jews associate repentance with the High Holy Days. The ten-day period from the start of Rosh ha-Shana to the end of Yom Kippur is known as Aseret Y'mai Teshuva, the Ten Days of Repentance. However, attendance at synagogue on these days, even when accompanied by sincere repentance, only wins forgiveness for offenses committed against God. As the Talmud teaches: "The Day of Atonement atones for sins against God, not for sins against man, unless the injured party has been appeased" (Mishna Yoma 8:9). That last clause, "unless the injured party has been appeased," suggests that for at least one crime, murder, there can be no complete repentance, since there is no way to appease the injured party. This distinctively Jewish belief separates most Jewish thinkers from their Christian counterparts.

Source: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/repentence.html

Norman: Actually, in my opinion and in some ways I find it is easier to understand what repentance is not; than to understand what it is.
1. Repentance is not suffering; in fact, the suffering comes from lack of complete repentance.
2. Punishment is not repentance; punishment follows disobedience and precedes repentance.
3. Confession (confessing with one’s lips that he or she is a sinner is not repentance; confession is an admission of guilt that occurs as repentance begins.
4. Remorse is not repentance; remorse and sorrow continue because a person has not yet fully repented.
5. Suffering, punishment, confession, remorse, and sorrow may sometimes accompany repentance, but they are not repentance.

What, then, is true repentance? The word used in it to refer to the concept of repentance is the Hebrew word “shube.” We can better understand what shube means by reading a passage from Ezekiel and inserting the word shube, along with its English translation.

To the “watchmen” appointed to warn Israel, the Lord says: ‘When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. ‘Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from [shube] it; if he do not turn from [shube] his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul....”Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from [shube] his way and live.”

(Ezek. 33:8-11.) I know of no kinder, sweeter passage in the Old Testament than these lines.