Replace "God" with "my mind"

[Pagan Spiritualist]

This makes all religions, and statements about religion, make sense.

(what I mean is pretty broad, I don't mean in direct sentence context when I say replace, I mean replace the concepts. When I say "my mind", I mean the mind of the person telling you about their God)

Just because you think it doesn't make it true...
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.

That being said, just because I think I can't know anything doesn't mean it's true, so there may be true wisdom beyond knowing nothing - For example, a person in the matrix can know they know nothing, or can know they're in the matrix. Or they can know they're out of the matrix and then wonder if there in a bigger matrix, thus knowing they know nothing again.

 

[Willamena]

If it makes it make sense (for you) then it's a good thing.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.

Perhaps you should be more circumspect about proving it ... :yes:

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

If it makes it make sense (for you) then it's a good thing.

It makes sense to most statements said by christians.

For example: (for the record I think jesus is just a man for don't replace jesus with "my mind")

God said that jesus paid for all our sins, so accept him.

My mind said jesus paid for all our sins, so accept him.

Also, replace Jesus with "get out of jail free card"


Hahahahaha

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

Perhaps you should be more circumspect about proving it ... :yes:

Okay, what if we're all in the Matrix?

The only true wisdom for someone in the matrix would be knowing that they know nothing, right? Because everything they know is false. The only true things they could know: Nothing, or being in the matrix.

Hmm.. I may have just defeated my own philosophy... Or not. Probably just need to think about it more.

 

[Willamena]

It makes sense to most statements said by christians.

For example:

God said that jesus paid for all our sins, so accept him.

My mind said jesus paid for all our sins, so accept him.

But did your mind say that your mind paid for all sins, so accept it?

 

[Willamena]

Okay, what if we're all in the Matrix?

The only true wisdom for someone in the matrix would be knowing that they know nothing, right? Because everything they know is false. The only true things they could know: Nothing, or being in the matrix.

Hmm.. I may have just defeated my own philosophy... Or not. Probably just need to think about it more.

If it's false, how could it kill them?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Probably just need to think about it more.

Or something more useful. :yes:

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

But did your mind say that your mind paid for all sins, so accept it?

You're applying what I meant in the wrong context, though the way I stated it was rather generalized and unexplanitory so I forgive you.

But, as a reply to you, my mind can forgive me of all sins. It cannot pay for them though, because there's nothing to pay for sinning, only something to gain - negative energy.

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

Or something more useful. :yes:

Yeah, I'll go play some Halo 3, to hell with thinking.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

You're applying what I meant in the wrong context, ....

For someone who claims to know nothing, you seem to be awash in assertions.

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

If it's false, how could it kill them?

The same way you can die if our universe is false. If you die here your real self may die somewhere else.

 

[Random]

This makes all religions, and statements about religion, make sense.

Okay. For you that might be true, for another person it might be a source of great confusion and complexity - making it less useful.

Just because you think it doesn't make it true...

A rejection of the New Age dogma "thought creates reality...", then. OK again, but for the sake of argument - what if you're wrong?

The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing

Oft quoted, but intellectual agnosticism says less about what you don't know and a lot more about what you do. After all, if you reject knowlege, what are you left with only? Faith?

 

[Willamena]

The same way you can die if our universe is false.

In what way can I die if our universe is false? *looks around*

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

If it's false, how could it kill them?

The same way the universe can kill you, if you believe in it or not...

But actually, someone within the matrix can bend it to their whim if the had the brain power, and they would never die within the Matrix. But their actual bodies would deteriorate, though. The matrix doesn't apply any further into this discussion, though.

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

Okay. For you that might be true, for another person it might be a source of great confusion and complexity - making it less useful.



A rejection of the New Age dogma "thought creates reality...", then. OK again, but for the sake of argument - what if you're wrong?



Oft quoted, but intellectual agnosticism says less about what you don't know and a lot more about what you do. After all, if you reject knowlege, what are you left with only? Faith?

For the sake of argument I'm always wrong, I always object to myself. I reject the validity of all things, including myself. Since I'm adamant in what I hope is true - and that's all I can really do, hope - which is faith.

Yes, I take based on faith the fact the universe exists, the fact that I'm alive. But I do know one truth, happiness. I like to be happy, being happy feels good. But what if it actually doesn't feel good? Well, then I don't care, because it seems to feel good to me. Hmm, I reject all truth but don't care if it's true so I go along with it anyway, if it feels good.

If you reject knowledge your left with happiness, which is why they say ignorance is bliss.(I'm using broad terms again there's times when the opposite is true)

 

[Willamena]

The same way the universe can kill you, if you believe in it or not...

So if I don't believe in it, it can't kill me?

 

[Troublemane]

LoL! This is a delightful conversation to say the least! :bounce

Ok, lets replace "God" with the Matrix. perhaps someone inside the matrix could know he was inside the matrix but he would have to be separate from it in some way to be able to control it. perhaps have access codes or something. I mean a program cant hijack your PC unless it has the right software/codes to do so, right? even if a program could know it was just a program in a computer wouldnt give it control over that computer.

Maybe, just maybe, religion and magick and science are just ways people have invented to try and control the Program? One seeks to appease the great Computer, one seeks to randomly type in codes and see what happens, and another tries to reason out the language the Computer uses and try and create its own programs?

BUT each still tries to play Master Programmer to all the other little sub-programs floating around there! :angel2:

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

In what way can I die if our universe is false? *looks around*

A knife through your face, alright?

 

[Willamena]

A knife through your face, alright?

Wouldn't that be the universe being true? *girn*