Republicans undermine education for sake of religion.

[Father Heathen]

Ohio House passes bill allowing student answers to be scientifically wrong due to religion

I'm curious how dumbing down our children fits into "making American great again"?

 

[sun rise]

The battle is raging at the inner Tel Meggido between the forces of light (truth) and the forces of darkness (ignorance).

 

[icehorse]

Ohio House passes bill allowing student answers to be scientifically wrong due to religion

I'm curious how dumbing down our children fits into "making American great again"?

President Eisenhower (GOP) is spinning in his grave!

 

[Twilight Hue]

Ohio House passes bill allowing student answers to be scientifically wrong due to religion

I'm curious how dumbing down our children fits into "making American great again"?

That's one thing that's really wacked out.

If a student says the earth is only 6000 years old, that student deserves a big fat F.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If a student says the earth is only 6000 years old, that student deserves a big fat F.

If, however, the student says ...

"According to science, the earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old, but my religion teaches me that that G-d created the earth is roughly 6,000 years old."​

... I'm fine with his or her response.

Perhaps we should be asking more respectful questions, e.g.,

According to science, how old is the earth?​

rather than:

How old is the earth?​

The school should grade a child on what he or she learns, not on the extent to which he or she submits.

 

[Nakosis]

Ohio House passes bill allowing student answers to be scientifically wrong due to religion

I'm curious how dumbing down our children fits into "making American great again"?

And yet Ohio still beats Calif for quality of public education.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/public-school-rankings-by-state/

 

[Father Heathen]

And yet Ohio still beats Calif for quality of public education.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/public-school-rankings-by-state/

Which obviously pre-dates this bill. And what does California have to do with anything?

Adorable attempt, though.

 

[Father Heathen]

That's one thing that's really wacked out.

If a student says the earth is only 6000 years old, that student deserves a big fat F.

Well, this is the wagon you're riding.

 

[icehorse]

If, however, the student says ...

"According to science, the earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old, but my religion teaches me that that G-d created the earth is roughly 6,000 years old."​

... I'm fine with his or her response.

Perhaps we should be asking more respectful questions, e.g.,

According to science, how old is the earth?​

rather than:

How old is the earth?​

The school should grade a child on what he or she learns, not on the extent to which he or she submits.

I'm sorry. "How old is the earth?" is a science question, not a religious one.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I'm sorry. "How old is the earth?" is a science question, not a religious one.

He has a point, though. If the student answers the question in a way that shows the material is understood, it shouldn't matter if the student negates the answer with a personal response.

Actually, I recently found out one of my students is a flatearther. I am having him write an essay with proper research and will work with him on what that means and the importance of understanding the opposition to his claim. In other words, I am making it a learning opportunity in which he will have to confront both sides. (I teach a special ed class for at-risk teens.)

 

[icehorse]

He has a point, though. If the student answers the question in a way that shows the material is understood, it shouldn't matter if the student negates the answer with a personal response.

Actually, I recently found out one of my students is a flatearther. I am having him write an essay with proper research and will work with him on what that means and the importance of understanding the opposition to his claim. In other words, I am making it a learning opportunity in which he will have to confront both sides. (I teach a special ed class for at-risk teens.)

I disagree. Teach science in science class and religion in religious class. "6000 years" is simply the wrong answer to a scientific question.

 

[Nakosis]

Which obviously pre-dates this bill. And what does California have to do with anything?

Adorable attempt, though.

It's where I live and I keep hearing about how bad the Calif public education system is. Not so much about how great Ohio is but how bad Calif is.
No intent to discredit the OP meant.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If, however, the student says ...

"According to science, the earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old, but my religion teaches me that that G-d created the earth is roughly 6,000 years old."​

... I'm fine with his or her response.

Perhaps we should be asking more respectful questions, e.g.,

According to science, how old is the earth?​

rather than:

How old is the earth?​

The school should grade a child on what he or she learns, not on the extent to which he or she submits.

So as long as a student claimed it was his religion he is safe. I would have aced every history test without studying one lick.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So as long as a student claimed it was his religion he is safe. I would have aced every history test without studying one lick.

Obviously not. Rather. as long as the student makes clear that he knows the expected answer he is safe. You, apparently, would have failed questions geared to test your reading comprehension.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So as long as a student claimed it was his religion he is safe. I would have aced every history test without studying one lick.

Obviously not. Rather. as long as the student makes clear that he knows the expected answer he is safe. You, apparently, would have failed questions geared to test your reading comprehension.

 

[Subduction Zone]

He has a point, though. If the student answers the question in a way that shows the material is understood, it shouldn't matter if the student negates the answer with a personal response.

Actually, I recently found out one of my students is a flatearther. I am having him write an essay with proper research and will work with him on what that means and the importance of understanding the opposition to his claim. In other words, I am making it a learning opportunity in which he will have to confront both sides. (I teach a special ed class for at-risk teens.)

If you want to throw him a bit of a curveball ( assuming he uses an Earth that centers on the North Pole) you could ask him to plot on his map the direction that people in South America, Australia, and southern Africa would point to when they saw the Southern Cross, the constellation around the southern pole. It cannot be done. Especially when one realizes that any two of those continents may be experiencing night time at the same time.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Obviously not. Rather. as long as the student makes clear that he knows the expected answer he is safe. You, apparently, would have failed questions geared to test your reading comprehension.

Aww, rats. But you had a rather poor qualifier in your response so I would say we are even.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's where I live and I keep hearing about how bad the Calif public education system is. Not so much about how great Ohio is but how bad Calif is.
No intent to discredit the OP meant.

I hear alot of people bash California. But they have no idea how it is outside of California. I'm in Bakersfield, and it's about a million times better here than where I came from in Indiana. As long as they don't compare a vagina to a piece of chewing gum they have one up over what I had in Indiana.

 

[Wandering Monk]

If, however, the student says ...

"According to science, the earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old, but my religion teaches me that that G-d created the earth is roughly 6,000 years old."​

... I'm fine with his or her response.

Perhaps we should be asking more respectful questions, e.g.,

According to science, how old is the earth?​

rather than:

How old is the earth?​

The school should grade a child on what he or she learns, not on the extent to which he or she submits.

Perhaps the Bible should be taught in Literature or Comparative Religion classes. Keep it out of the Science curriculum.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Perhaps the Bible should be taught in Literature or Comparative Religion classes. Keep it out of the Science curriculum.

I completely agree, although how the above comment is relevant to this thread is unclear to me.