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Revalation
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Bishka
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Yukimor said:Just asking but does ayone else think revelation isn't about the end of the world?
Welcome to the forums.
That is an interesting question, and I'm sure there are some people here that do.
I for one, think that it is about the end of the world, but it is so full of rich symbolism, it maybe be hard to understand at times.
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angellous_evangellous
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Yukimor said:Just asking but does ayone else think revelation isn't about the end of the world?
It's about the fall of the Roman Empire... it was so big that was spoken of highly exagerrated, cosmological terms.
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angellous_evangellous
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Yukimor said:
666 is in most manuscripts, but the oldest one says 616. No big deal...
It's probably a scribal error.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast
The Number of the Beast is described in the Book of Revelation 13:18. From the King James translation:[5]
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
In the Greek manuscripts, the Number is rendered in Greek numerical form as χξς,[6] or sometimes literally as six hundred and sixty-six, ἑξακόσιοι ἑξήκοντα ἕξ.[7][8] The oldest known record of the verse, a fragment of an early manuscript of Revelation from the Oxyrhynchus site, gives a different number, 616, as χιϛ.[1] The early Church father Irenaeus knew several occurrences of the 616-variant but regarded them as a scribal error, although he didn't know the meaning of the number.[9] The Zürich Bible which is based on the oldest Bible manuscripts also mentions the number 616.
It is important to note that the website for Oxyrhynchus states that the number is a mistake as represented as 616 or 665 and also that 666 can not be a representation of Nero.
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
Greetings!
Quite!
In fact, it's about the end of the Age: the "end of the world" thing was a mistranslation of the original Greek by the compilers of the King James Version, who overlooked the fact that the same Greek word, "eras," means either "world" or "age."
Then picked the wrong meaning, and the rest is history! . . .
(And in the Baha'i view the end of the Age has already come and gone, BTW.)
Regards,
Bruce
Yukimor said:
Quite!
In fact, it's about the end of the Age: the "end of the world" thing was a mistranslation of the original Greek by the compilers of the King James Version, who overlooked the fact that the same Greek word, "eras," means either "world" or "age."
Then picked the wrong meaning, and the rest is history! . . .
(And in the Baha'i view the end of the Age has already come and gone, BTW.)
Regards,
Bruce
freechristian
New Member
I think it's about the end of the current world, but also about the beginning of a new one: The new Jerusalem.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
BruceDLimber said:
I don't think that the KJV mistranslates this. Can you show examples from the text?
PHOTOTAKER
Well-Known Member
BruceDLimber said:
i thank both are correct; there are many errors in the bible including useing the worg word... but a lot of people belive that the words were used to show that the passage can be fullfilled many times...
KingNothing
Member
Thomas Jefferson has been quoted as saying the book is "the ravings of a lunatic". Reading it, it does sound kind of like someone gave Johnny Boy a pen and some acid silmultaneously. If you can accurately interpret the author's meanings, then I bow to you :bow: .
If you can accurately interpret the author's meanings, then I bow to you :bow: .
adilrockstar
Active Member
Yukimor said:Just asking but does ayone else think revelation isn't about the end of the world?
Revelation is absolutely about the End of the World. It says so very clearly.
adilrockstar
Active Member
KingNothing said:Thomas Jefferson has been quoted as saying the book is "the ravings of a lunatic". Reading it, it does sound kind of like someone gave Johnny Boy a pen and some acid silmultaneously.
Feel Free I will interpret any part you wish. Just PM me and you will get your answers.
adilrockstar
Active Member
angellous_evangellous said:
Not likely.
adilrockstar
Active Member
beckysoup61 said:
One example:
19 11-21
one more, 21 the whole chapter
Pretty much the whole Revleation is about the end times.
PHOTOTAKER
Well-Known Member
beckysoup61 said:
its about alot... the end of the world is just one subject in revalations, mostly it is about the 2nd coming of Christ (not nessarily the end of the world wait for about a thousand or so years after he comes)... armagition is a place just out side jersulom called valley of Megiddo i belive, but the whole good and evil thing i don't know if that is the deciding battle (good is going to win) as far as anyone can say for sure is that is were the last battle will be before the "great and dredfull day of the Lord"
*Paul*
Jesus loves you
Revelation covers the end of the age and the end of the world. It refers to past present and future from the time it was written:
Rv 1v19: Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
I love the book of revelation, i think i may have read it more than any other. But you need to know the ot prophets also to open up some parts of it.
Rv 1v19: Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
I love the book of revelation, i think i may have read it more than any other. But you need to know the ot prophets also to open up some parts of it.