RF Kennedy Jr. suspends campaign and endorses Trump.

[Twilight Hue]

With 13 dead. Don't leave that part out.

Also prepare to increase the resulting death count post withdrawal.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/03/1242451906/in-afghanistan-women-are-once-again-facing-death-by-stoning-for-adultery

 

[Kathryn]

Think of how many more would've died
if USA had continued the war. How many
more decades would be required before
the Afghan government could beat the
Taliban? What if it never could? Then
USA would occupy it in perpetuity.
Nah, that's really bad policy.
Biden ripped off the Band-Aid, & got
USA out.
Would you have preferred to stay there?
For how long?

BTW, I searched the internet for news prior
to the pull out. No one predicted the
government would fall as it did.

I wonder why it is that Republicans are
willing to spend trillions of dollars fighting
in Afghanistan for decades. But they're
unwilling to spend a fraction of that to
help Ukraine defend against Putin's invasion.
Republicans make no sense.

I agree that many Republican actions seem to make no sense, so you are preaching the choir there.

As for the ongoing deaths, who knows what would have happened. Not me and not you.

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree that many Republican actions seem to make no sense, so you are preaching the choir there.

As for the ongoing deaths, who knows what would have happened. Not me and not you.

I do know that if USA had continued the war, that
what happens in a war would continue to happen,
eg, spending many billions of dollars per year,
many people on both sides dying.
If you didn't know that, now you do.

 

[Kathryn]

I do know that if USA had continued the war, that
what happens in a war would continue to happen,
eg, spending many billions of dollars per year,
many people on both sides dying.
If you didn't know that, now you do.

I already know that, but thanks I guess for the information.

 

[sew.excited73]

RFK Jr:
Trump is "unhinged" & "barely coherent".
So he now supports Trump for President.

JD Vance:
Trump is "America's Hitler".
So he now wants to serve with Trump as VP.

Republicans....you sure can count on them
to be consistent in their moral values.
Until they smell power to be gained by
flip flopping, & abandoning everything
they once stood for. Even if itmeans
having an "unhinged Hitler" as Prez.

RFK Jr dismisses Trump as ‘unhinged’ after being called a ‘Democrat plant’

‘Trump’s rant against me is a barely coherent,’ says independent White House hopeful and challenges ex-president to a debate

www.theguardian.com

I am not taking sides here, but you have to be fair… Obama did exactly the same with Harris, sooo…. It’s not just Republicans who appear to be hypocrite. Just saying.

 

[wellwisher]

Trump wants peace, eh.
He campaigned on a promise to exit Afghanistan.
He failed.
But Biden exited there right after assuming office.

Trump had to first deal with the large regional Arab conflict that Obama and Biden escalated called the Arab Spring.

Do you remember how Obama, Biden and Clinton, did not rescue the personal at one of our Embassies and allowed the terrorist to acquire a large stock of weapons? When Trump got into Office, the Arab world was in an upheaval. Trump hunted the terrorists down and neutralized the threat and stabilized the entire region. All that was left was Afghanistan, which Biden and Harris botched. Again, Biden and Harris, left behind people and more weapons for the terrorists. Had Trump remained in office in 2021, it would have been done right. Biden and Harris are/were way over their heads. Harris has no clue, which is why the media pretends and fawns; trick the liberal base with smoke bubbles.

The Political left rank and file remind me collectively, of an abused wife, who, no matter how many times her husband, lies, cheats, abuses and disappoints, she stand by her man. I would think that after the Russian Collusion scam you poor abused saps would have moved out. The scam fell apart and you are still blaming the truth for messing up the lies and promises not kept. You guys did not even complain after you made plans; Biden's primary vote, that your abusive handler flushed the vote, took the money and blew off the plans. At least Trump, did not sabotage any anyone else who wanted to run in the primaries, like Biden and Harris did to RFK Jr. They take after Putin who did the same.

In Trump's first term, he was like a farmer in the field, being constantly shelled by the DNC; law fare and fake news disinformation, yet he brings home food each day. His followers are not abused wives, but more like wives who feel lucky to have such a hard working and determine man. They would forgive him if had threw in the towel, but he keeps fighting. JFK Jr is very similar to Trump, based on the amount of DNC abuse he had to go through. The boneheads in the DNC, also stabbed him in the back, since he dared not to walk lockstep. This will come back to bite the DNC. RFK will now have a much larger audience to hear his tale of DNC abuse.

I would have chosen the DNC ticket of Manchin and Kennedy in they has to mothball Biden. They are two Old Time Democrats from the 1960's style, that could chew gum and walk at the same time. The DNC at that time was running on all cylinders and full of statesmen and did not need fake news. That was the time to be a Liberal. That ticket would have been competitive and the debates would have been classic and informative. The DNC will now have to give us an abuse circus. There would hav also ben less need for the nonsense at the DNC convention; blowing smoke bubbles. That lying to my face gets embarrassing.

My prediction is a Trump landslide. RFK Jr will get the huge Trump audience and when he tells his story of abuse, at the hands of thecrooked DNC and swamp, Independent will become activists. Old Time Liberals will come to vote, but not for the DNC. One thing that was overlooked was fake news did a good job of singling out Trump, to make the abuse seem, acceptable. Evil Trump needs this. But Kennedy, with the same abuse, is not known to be a hateful target. The parallel show a common tactic. This will create a sense that their abuse scam does not fly or even make sense, anymore. The swamp and DNC are the abusers and independents, like goods husband and neighbors, will take the abusive husband to the wood shed for some justice due.

 

[Regiomontanus]

I respect your opinion...
But I have been listening to him for years, and I have heard wisdom, transparency, peacefulness, ķnowledge.
And by the way... the élites hate commoners.

It is the élites who said he is nutty.

Am I an elitist? Mayhap that is the case

 

[Revoltingest]

I am not taking sides here, but you have to be fair… Obama did exactly the same with Harris, sooo….

I was (& am) no fan of Obama.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

RFK Jr:
Trump is "unhinged" & "barely coherent".
So he now supports Trump for President.

JD Vance:
Trump is "America's Hitler".
So he now wants to serve with Trump as VP.

Republicans....you sure can count on them
to be consistent in their moral values.
Until they smell power to be gained by
flip flopping, & abandoning everything
they once stood for. Even if itmeans
having an "unhinged Hitler" as Prez.

RFK Jr dismisses Trump as ‘unhinged’ after being called a ‘Democrat plant’

‘Trump’s rant against me is a barely coherent,’ says independent White House hopeful and challenges ex-president to a debate

www.theguardian.com

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You're just so attractive when stating the obvious!

 

[Regiomontanus]

Here are the environmental accomplishment of Trump, all while have an effective energy policy that used the environment.

Took strong action to protect the environment and ensure clean air and clean water

• Took action to protect vulnerable Americans from being exposed to lead and copper in drinking water and finalized a rule protecting children from lead-based paint hazards
• Invested over $38 billion in clean water infrastructure
• In 2019, America achieved the largest decline in carbon emissions of any country on Earth. Since withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord, the United States has reduced carbon emissions more than any nation
• American levels of particulate matter—one of the main measures of air pollution—are approximately five times lower than the global average
• Between 2017 and 2019, the air became 7 percent cleaner—indicated by a steep drop in the combined emissions of criteria pollutants
• Led the world in greenhouse gas emissions reductions, having cut energy-related CO2 emissions by 12 percent from 2005 to 2018—while the rest of the world increased emissions by 24 percent
• In FY 2019 the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) cleaned up more major pollution sites than any year in nearly two decades
• The EPA delivered $300 million in Brownfields grants directly to communities most in need, including investment in 118 Opportunity Zones
• Placed a moratorium on offshore drilling off the coasts of Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Florida
• Restored public access to Federal land at Bears Ears National Monument and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument
• Recovered more endangered or threatened species than any other administration in its first term

The problem with the Left is they seem to believe their own propaganda and disinformation. You can still be pro-environment while also making use of the environment, such as providing energy from your country's natural resources.

The Democrats only know the zero sum game, so to them it is one way or the other but never both. But someone in business and who knows how to make payroll and profit, knows there is also a positive sum game where you can walk and chew bubblegum, both at the same time. Whatever the DNC does tends to hurt someone since it must add to zero; no net gain only redistribute. I prefer a more intelligent person like Trump for president since he know the positive sum game.

Dude, really? He has been, by far, the worst President EVER when it comes to the environment - especially land conservation.

Worse than Regan, which I thought would be impossible.

Interior nixes Trump’s Alaska land orders, mine road

“These natural wonders demand our protection," President Joe Biden said.

www.eenews.net

Wildlife agencies to cancel Trump-era endangered species rules

President Joe Biden's administration is canceling two environmental rollbacks under former President Donald Trump that limited habitat protections for imperiled plants and wildlife.

www.pbs.org

U.S. agency cancels Trump policy on conservation purchases

Acting Interior Secretary Scott de la Vega on Thursday rescinded a November order from former Secretary David Bernhardt that was criticized by lawmakers from both parties in Congress.

www.pbs.org

How Chaos Will Unfold if Trump Opens the Tongass to Logging

Tongass National Forest is a massive yet fragile treasure—logging and slicing roads into it will set off horrifying effects that will ripple through the ecosystem.

www.wired.com

The Trump Administration Rolled Back More Than 100 Environmental Rules. Here’s the Full List. (Published 2021)

The Trump administration has dismantled nearly 100 policies focused on clean air, water, wildlife and toxic chemicals, and left more than a dozen rollbacks unfinished. Here’s how they add up.

www.nytimes.com

Trump’s Environmental Impact Endures, at Home and Around the World - Inside Climate News

His break from the Paris accord inspires other populist leaders, while his reshaping of the federal courts and environmental rollbacks affect the air, water, wetlands and public lands, disrupting efforts to counter climate change.

insideclimatenews.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/climate-environment/trump-climate-environment-protections/

And the hits keep on coming...

 

[Truthseeker]

I was (& am) no fan of Obama.

He was one of top Presidents according to historians and scholars. Maybe you don't like all Presidents? That's what I am guessing. It's true that all Presidents have an ego, thinking they are the best for the job, so they run for the Presidency. They also are flexible, adopting whatever positions to a degree that will help them get elected. They all slant their record to some degree so that they look good. It's inevitable in our system that such people become President. I think our system could use a change.

 

[Truthseeker]

I am not taking sides here, but you have to be fair… Obama did exactly the same with Harris, sooo…. It’s not just Republicans who appear to be hypocrite. Just saying.

When was that, in the 2020 election?

 

[Revoltingest]

He was one of top Presidents according to historians and scholars.

Opinions vary.
Obamacare was very messed up when rolled out.
Obama was the biggest persecutor of whistle blowers in history.
He promised to end 2 wars, but didn't.
He continued with civil forfeiture, ie, government taking property without due process.
He initially opposed gay marriage.

Maybe you don't like all Presidents? That's what I am guessing.

Some are worse than others.
I've no affection for any.
But neither do I loathe them all.
All, even bad ones, had some good points.

It's true that all Presidents have an ego, thinking they are the best for the job, so they run for the Presidency. They also are flexible, adopting whatever positions to a degree that will help them get elected. They all slant their record to some degree so that they look good. It's inevitable in our system that such people become President. I think our system could use a change.

I judge by their actions.

 

[Truthseeker]

Obamacare was very messed up when rolled out.

You know how that goes. No one who didn't have a job or have social security at that time had any relief from insurance companies. They were at their mercy. Those who were poor or just getting by had to either go without medical care or go deeply in debt. It was an imperfect solution, but that was the only way he could get it passed. It may be also it had some drawbacks. When I got laid off in January of 2001 for 18 months neither my wife or I had a way to pay for expensive medical bills. Then I got disability, and then I was able to breathe a sigh of relief for myself, but my wife didn't have a job that gave her some relief from insurance company costs. When The affordable Care Act was passed in 2009, I could breathe a sigh of relief for my wife and also myself. She didn't get medicare until 2020.

Obama was the biggest persecutor of whistle blowers in history.

I don't know what that refers to. Snowden? All Presidents come down on whistleblowers of government secrets. There shouldn't be government secrets in this world, but that's the world we live in.

He promised to end 2 wars, but didn't.

Was that Iraq and Afghanistan? Usually after the rhetoric of presidential candidates, they find that resolving foreign more difficult than they thought. That's unfortunately because of the very secrets kept from them before they become President. That said, foreign policy was a weakness of his. He said on the conflict in Syria that if Assad crossed a line, he would act against him. When that line was crossed, he allowed him to supposedly destroy all of his chemical weapons, and naively believed they were destroyed. That was a problem of his, he was naive about foreign leaders because he thought they were like him.

He continued with civil forfeiture, ie, government taking property without due process.

I don't know anything about that. Explain what that was.

He initially opposed gay marriage.

He changed his position. Who knows about whether he sincerely changed his position, but politicians change their positions all the time like I explained earlier even if they are not sincere in order to get popularity or get things done. it's the unfortunate nature of politics.

Some are worse than others.
I've no affection for any.
But neither do I loathe them all.
All, even bad ones, had some good points.

Even Trump? I find it hard to find any for him. He is at the bottom of barrel for the historians. I tend to evaluate Presidents more from a point of view of whether they had good morals, so for me he is the worst. By the way I think Obama has good morals. So did Jimmy Carter, though historians rate him lower than I do.

 

[Father Heathen]

Well...if the elitist warmongers who run the Democratic Party think he is nutty, it is because he wants peace.
Peace is for crazy people.

Achieving "peace" by sacrificing liberty and democracy in order to appease tyrants and terrorists is for crazy people.

 

[Estro Felino]

Achieving "peace" by sacrificing liberty and democracy in order to appease tyrants and terrorists is for crazy people.

Certain Ukrainians sabotaged the two Nordstream pipelines.
They deserve to be defeated.
They are losing Donbas.

 

[Father Heathen]

The Left deserves nothing but contempt.

Instead of celebrating the son of a Democratic Party's presidential candidate who was murdered because he was running for president, after they murdered Dr. MLK Jr.
...they totally gave him up.

And he chose to endorse Trump.

I am speechless before the spiritual, cultural and philosophical void of the American Left

Of what use is a deranged, dangerous, conspiracy theorist kook? He's an antivaxxer who claims vaccinations cause autism, a climate change denier, believes 5G technology is a health risk, believes chemtrail nonsense, faces sexual assault allegations and admitted to "skeletons in the closet" in response, played with a dead bear cub, etc. What makes you think someone like that is worthy of respect?

How do you not understand why it's so important that those in powerful leadership positions need to be rational and intelligent?

 

[Estro Felino]

Of what use is a deranged, dangerous, conspiracy theorist kook? He's an antivaxxer who claims vaccinations cause autism, a climate change denier, believes 5G technology is a health risk, believes chemtrail nonsense, faces sexual assault allegations and admitted to "skeletons in the closet" in response, played with a dead bear cub, etc. What makes you think someone like that is worthy of respect?

How do you not understand why it's so important that those in powerful leadership positions need to be rational and intelligent?

Okay...that's your opinion.

Give me one single reason why I should support the American Democratic Party.
One.

 

[Father Heathen]

Trump had to first deal with the large regional Arab conflict that Obama and Biden escalated called the Arab Spring.

Do you remember how Obama, Biden and Clinton, did not rescue the personal at one of our Embassies and allowed the terrorist to acquire a large stock of weapons? When Trump got into Office, the Arab world was in an upheaval. Trump hunted the terrorists down and neutralized the threat and stabilized the entire region. All that was left was Afghanistan, which Biden and Harris botched. Again, Biden and Harris, left behind people and more weapons for the terrorists. Had Trump remained in office in 2021, it would have been done right. Biden and Harris are/were way over their heads. Harris has no clue, which is why the media pretends and fawns; trick the liberal base with smoke bubbles.

The Political left rank and file remind me collectively, of an abused wife, who, no matter how many times her husband, lies, cheats, abuses and disappoints, she stand by her man. I would think that after the Russian Collusion scam you poor abused saps would have moved out. The scam fell apart and you are still blaming the truth for messing up the lies and promises not kept. You guys did not even complain after you made plans; Biden's primary vote, that your abusive handler flushed the vote, took the money and blew off the plans. At least Trump, did not sabotage any anyone else who wanted to run in the primaries, like Biden and Harris did to RFK Jr. They take after Putin who did the same.

In Trump's first term, he was like a farmer in the field, being constantly shelled by the DNC; law fare and fake news disinformation, yet he brings home food each day. His followers are not abused wives, but more like wives who feel lucky to have such a hard working and determine man. They would forgive him if had threw in the towel, but he keeps fighting. JFK Jr is very similar to Trump, based on the amount of DNC abuse he had to go through. The boneheads in the DNC, also stabbed him in the back, since he dared not to walk lockstep. This will come back to bite the DNC. RFK will now have a much larger audience to hear his tale of DNC abuse.

I would have chosen the DNC ticket of Manchin and Kennedy in they has to mothball Biden. They are two Old Time Democrats from the 1960's style, that could chew gum and walk at the same time. The DNC at that time was running on all cylinders and full of statesmen and did not need fake news. That was the time to be a Liberal. That ticket would have been competitive and the debates would have been classic and informative. The DNC will now have to give us an abuse circus. There would hav also ben less need for the nonsense at the DNC convention; blowing smoke bubbles. That lying to my face gets embarrassing.

My prediction is a Trump landslide. RFK Jr will get the huge Trump audience and when he tells his story of abuse, at the hands of thecrooked DNC and swamp, Independent will become activists. Old Time Liberals will come to vote, but not for the DNC. One thing that was overlooked was fake news did a good job of singling out Trump, to make the abuse seem, acceptable. Evil Trump needs this. But Kennedy, with the same abuse, is not known to be a hateful target. The parallel show a common tactic. This will create a sense that their abuse scam does not fly or even make sense, anymore. The swamp and DNC are the abusers and independents, like goods husband and neighbors, will take the abusive husband to the wood shed for some justice due.

Gish gallop fresh from the echo chamber.

 

[Father Heathen]

Okay...that's your opinion.

Nope. It's objective fact.

Give me one single reason why I should support the American Democratic Party.
One.

You've already asked this, and I've already answered it: Capitalists may have the same mentality as Nazis: that people must be enslaved