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RFK - Biden More Dangerous than Trump

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Yes, and if one watches Trump's reaction to Hannity, he realized the latter's shock and then moves on. He has repeated stated about "retribution" against those he hates and even going against certain news sources, such as when he threatened to shut MSNBC down if elected.

At this point, it is truly bewildering to me how professed Christians and some observant Jews can still defend this man. Do they have a death wish for the country? As a student of the Holocaust, what's happening is scaring the bejabbers out of me.
It is both bewildering and alarming to me as well. I don't get it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Again, since it doesn’t have a link, I have to see the context of the statement.

As far Skeptic and a political twisting of what was said:



This, actually, looks more dictatorial:


It’s what people do that concerns me
You're confusing "dictatorial" with authoritarianism
imposed by a democratically elected government
run by 3 branches.
Worry not. IC engine vehicles won't be banned
in 2035. That's just an unrealistic goal they want
the masses focused on, so as to increase the
number of EVs.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Yes, and if one watches Trump's reaction to Hannity, he realized the latter's shock and then moves on. He has repeated stated about "retribution" against those he hates and even going against certain news sources, such as when he threatened to shut MSNBC down if elected.

At this point, it is truly bewildering to me how professed Christians and some observant Jews can still defend this man. Do they have a death wish for the country? As a student of the Holocaust, what's happening is scaring the bejabbers out of me.
Funny how Trump said he would be dictator for one day. Sure, he will declare himself ruler for life on day one, and from then on it's "legit", although no longer a democracy.

If Trump wins in the 4-6 swing states, well, that's what these voters will give to America. All I can hope is that Trump's health problems catch up to him quickly and the vice president isn't too criminally ambitious. I expect America to have buyer's remorse quickly if the swing states elect him again (let's note that the election will be won or lost in the swing states due to the electoral system). Trump has sworn to use executive orders (like he did in his first term, sorry @Kenny ) and use them against people and organizations as deliberate attacks. He plans a massive deportation effort of millions of migrants, and no explanation of how it's legal. Trump violated domestic and international laws in his term against migrants (not even those entering illegally) and he faced a lot of international criticsm for human rights violations.

We will see what happens after the first criminal case against Trump, and what the consequences are.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
We will see what happens after the first criminal case against Trump, and what the consequences are.

And his behavior dealing with these cases is quite telling in that he delays and delays, whereas a person who is innocent would want to go ahead with these cases to prove his/her innocence!
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
He plans a massive deportation effort of millions of migrants, and no explanation of how it's legal. Trump violates domestic and international laws in his term against migrants (not even those entering illegally) and he faced a lot of international criticsm for human rights violations.

And Trump shows no empathy for these people whatsoever and, as a matter of fact, he stereotypes and demonizes them. What real Christian would do that or support any politician who would do that? I don't get it in terms of them not seeing their own inconsistencies.

To me, it boils down to this for some here: Do they believe in Jesus or do they believe in Trump because it's virtually impossible to believe in both since they are polar opposites in terms of how they treat people?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
And his behavior dealing with these cases is quite telling in that he delays and delays, whereas a person who is innocent would want to go ahead with these cases to prove his/her innocence!
Trump's delay tactics aren't working in New York, and the trial will begin in less than two weeks. The documents case is a total mess due to judge Cannon, and she is facing a motion that could lead to her being removed from the case.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
And Trump shows no empathy for these people whatsoever and, as a matter of fact, he stereotypes and demonizes them. What real Christian would do that or support any politician who would do that? I don't get it in terms of them not seeing their own inconsistencies.
I think any Christian that supports Trump is an AntiChrist. These people are the antithesis to what Jesus taught. Not only do they not live by what Jesus taught, they actively oppose it, and take action by voting for an immoral, criminal candidate.
To me, it boils down to this for some here: Do they believe in Jesus or do they believe in Trump because it's virtually impossible to believe in both since they are polar opposites in terms of how they treat people?
I think these sorts of lost souls are like what happened to the Christians in Nazi Germany, and who Jacob Bronowski called "obedient ghosts". They certainly don't seem to have any moral sense, not awareness of their moral bankruptcy. It wouldn;t be a huge problem for the USA if we had a popular vite because Trump would never have won. But with the EC system Trump only has to win in a few swing states and will have massive power as a disturbed man, without any accountability.

Imagine a scenario where a new Trump presidency performs illegal actions, and a democratic House impeaches him again, would Trump supporters think twice about another Jan 6 type attack if they were confident Trump would order his DOJ not to indict any of them? Let's not forget this mob could include the actual 1350 (thus far) arrested, 900 convicted, 500 incarcerated Jan 6 rioters who might want some payback for being held accountable. And would they bring guns this time? Would members of congress actually get killed this time?
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The documents case is a total mess due to judge Cannon, and she is facing a motion that could lead to her being removed from the case.
I hope so since she's a disgrace and has been overturned twice already with criticism of her antics by the appellate courts.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There are a few voices out there who seem to be less than enchanted with either Biden or Trump - and also seem to want to embrace some sort of "middle ground" position. Senator Sinema in Arizona also kind of put forth that view, but it seems she's leaving politics with some sense of bitterness. The OP article suggested that RFK was not really in the middle, but actually pro-Trump. And it's quite possible that he might be for Trump, but if he continues to run, would he take away more votes from Biden or from Trump?
Since the democrats are going after him more than the gop I think it's clear that they are more worried about President Biden losing votes to him.
 
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