Not explicitly in this thread, but you frequently bring up George Soros, a dog whistle for the idea of a global Jewish conspiracy.
If I've misread the situation, please feel free to correct me by saying which other conspiracy you had in mind.
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RFK Jr. and the media reluctant to cover his candidacy
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If I've misread the situation, please feel free to correct me by saying which other conspiracy you had in mind.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
To be fair, Oswald's actions in his late-teens to early twenties definitely hint at something a little bit beyond political views, per se:
"Oswald traveled to the Soviet Union just before he turned 20 in October 1959. He had taught himself Russian and saved $1,500 of his Marine Corps salary (equivalent to $11,100 in 2021).[n 3] Oswald spent two days with his mother in Fort Worth, then embarked by ship on September 20 from New Orleans to Le Havre, France, and immediately traveled to the United Kingdom. Arriving in Southampton on October 9, he told officials he had $700 and planned to stay for one week before proceeding to a school in Switzerland. On the same day, he flew to Helsinki, where he checked in at the Hotel Torni, room 309, then moved to Hotel Klaus Kurki, room 429.[49] He was issued a Soviet visa on October 14. Oswald left Helsinki by train on the following day, crossed the Soviet border at Vainikkala, and arrived in Moscow on October 16.[50] His visa, valid only for a week, was due to expire on October 21.[51]
Almost immediately after arriving, Oswald informed his Intourist guide of his desire to become a Soviet citizen. When asked why by the various Soviet officials he encountered—all of whom, by Oswald's account, found his wish incomprehensible—he said that he was a communist, and gave what he described in his diary as "vauge [sic] answers about 'Great Soviet Union'".[51] On October 21, the day his visa was due to expire, he was told that his citizenship application had been refused, and that he had to leave the Soviet Union that evening. Distraught, Oswald inflicted a minor but bloody wound to his left wrist in his hotel room bathtub soon before his Intourist guide was due to arrive to escort him from the country, according to his diary because he wished to kill himself in a way that would shock her.[51] Delaying Oswald's departure because of his self-inflicted injury, the Soviets kept him in a Moscow hospital under psychiatric observation for a week, until October 28, 1959.[52]"
SOURCE: Lee Harvey Oswald - Wikipedia
Imagine being so insane that the USSR rejects your defection.
A couple of years later he would eventually leave the USSR, citing a lack of recreation (who would have thought that the USSR in the early sixties wouldn't have been any fun??). Despite attempting to renounce his US citizenship and claiming he had confidential information he was willing to share with the Soviets, the US allowed him to repatriate because they believe he posed no significant threat to national security.
Wacky times indeed.
I was thinking of the CIA.
Still, at least some people at an elite level must have favored the Kennedys, as they did get a lot of good press and had the popularity of rock stars. They were not complete outsiders, as their father was politically connected.
Those who hated them seemed to come from one of two camps (or both): The fanatical McCarthyite, Bircher types, along with other Cold Warriors who thought the Kennedys were too liberal and soft on communism - and/or the racists who hated them for their stance on civil rights. Considering the personality and character of men like McCarthy, Nixon, Goldwater, J. Edgar Hoover et al., as well as the center of the political culture of the time, I think it stands to reason that many within the government also had equally fanatical viewpoints, particularly in agencies which are considered part of the national security apparatus (including the CIA).
Whether or not they had any actual "plans," beyond just the standard line of Containment and supposedly "fighting for the free world," that's not really clear.
It seems it would have been easier and cleaner to just expose JFK before he was even elected. He was an adulterer, a womanizer, and he had shady Mob ties. Yet, the press gave him this clean-cut, boyish image which enraptured a lot of people, although the election of 1960 was quite close. Some even thought there was fraud. (Sound familiar?) It would not have taken that much to shift a few votes back into Nixon's column.
First of all in the sixties there was not this current woke war waged against the white heterosexual male.
So Kennedy's sex life wouldn't have meant anything and I am absolutely sure so many Americans knew what Marilyn Monroe meant by that "Happy Birthday Mr President" and they couldn't care less.
Secondly, the mafia may have benefited from his election, thinking that JFK would turn a blind eye on their financial activities... but JFK and his brother didn't turn a blind eye. And it was two mobsters, Nicoletti and James Files who killed JFK in Dallas. Files fired that magic bullet that we see on tapes. To punish him.
The CIA was being ignored by JFK. The POTUS wanted to stop all wars and to set the Latin American countries free from the yoke of the American Deep State. So it's very probable the CIA was in on it.
Yes, that was a curious decision to let him come back. Of course, back in those days, the US government had some rather strange ideas about national security.
@Stevicus
I use logic and science. And I trust nobody. I trust my eyes only.
The deadly shot was so close. So close.
If someone tells me that that gunshot was fired from the 6th floor of a building which was obliquous to the trajectory of the street and behind the car...well I should believe in elves and flying donkeys too.
This is where Files shot from.
I use logic and science. And I trust nobody. I trust my eyes only.
The deadly shot was so close. So close.
If someone tells me that that gunshot was fired from the 6th floor of a building which was obliquous to the trajectory of the street and behind the car...well I should believe in elves and flying donkeys too.
This is where Files shot from.
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tytlyf
Not Religious
What is a "woke war?"
As a white heterosexual male, I don't see it. Could it be a figment of your imagination?
Would you say it's primarily right-wing media outlets that teach you about this "woke war?"
Are you white and straight?
tytlyf
Not Religious
Yes, I edited my post to reflect that. Answer the rest of my questions.
Actually it is something that I remarked.
How American heterosexual males are a priori guilty for being what they are.
If a male politician said "I love pretty women" he would be forced to resign.
It wouldn't have been against him as a white heterosexual male. But there were pretty sharply divided opinions about him. Nixon could have won the 1960 election if just a few more votes had gone his way; it was very close. America was lot more religious back then, and putting forth a clean, honest, family-oriented image was expected in public life.
There could be any number of possibilities. The House Select Committee on Assassinations suggested a probable conspiracy, but they couldn't really find out much. (United States House Select Committee on Assassinations - Wikipedia)
It'll probably always be a mystery, as there's too many unanswered questions to be able to say "case closed." It'll just go down as one of history's numerous curiosities and mysteries, and no one may ever know the real truth of it.
Oswald said he was a patsy and effectively denied any guilt. Then he was shot and killed by Jack Ruby who had Mob ties. He was essentially tried posthumously, but never got the opportunity to defend himself.
tytlyf
Not Religious
According to who? Women?
According to who? Some right-wing gossiper?
Got any examples of this happening?
I think it's a psychological thing.
Americans have this rosy vision of the Government made up of immaculate saints who would never kill anybody.
I have never had such vision about any Government. Especially mine.
To many here, the Kennedys were royalty.
**** that ****.
Well, sure, there's plenty of arguments which one could make, particularly about Oswald, who himself claimed to be a patsy. He was said to have been a poor marksman and using a cheap Italian rifle. He was also pretty clearly mentally ill and seemingly incompetent. However, there have been those who re-enacted the scene and proved that it was technically possible that Oswald could have done it by himself. But under the circumstances, it seems it would have to be one of the wildest flukes in the history of the world.
It was a hyperbole.
The problem is that I see in that footage a man who is shot from the front. Not from behind.
And the depository was behind the car.
I can see perfectly. I have 10/10 eyesight.
Honestly, whenever I hear RFK speak, I perceive a beautiful soul.
He's so profoundly driven by altruism, patriotism, justice.
People like him give me hope.
I would like to understand what kind of things you expect from a politician .
Exercise sound judgement,I would like to understand what kind of things you expect from a politician .
& adhere to my ethics.