godnotgod
Thou art That
So sorry it was above your head. Re-read and you may get that he put his foot into his own mouth.
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So sorry it was above your head. Re-read and you may get that he put his foot into his own mouth.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
My religion is ice-cream now. I seek the purity of vanilla, so your new-age Neapolitan is of little interest.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
So then it follows that you are enlightened otherwise you wouldn't be strenuously arguing from a position of quasi-authority.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
So you are claiming to be enlightened then. Good luck with finding some loyal devotees, I think you'll need it!
godnotgod
Thou art That
Actually you're just not very good at this, my dear fellow.
(Edit: Forgive the original typo, as I am typing in the dark.)
No, you're just in the dark, period!
If you get it, you get it. No baloney. But you don't get it, because you're full of it.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Now, now, godnotgod, do try to remain calm. There is no need to be rude and petulant.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Again, pure projection.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
godnotgod
Thou art That
No, I am claiming no such thing. I am only saying that the way to know is to see into the nature of things, as an answer to your question. Neither am I claiming authority. I'm merely providing information about what I see, that's all. I gave you the information, but instead of discussing it, you want to attack my pointing finger. That is typical of people who don't get it. Your ego wants now to play its little games, and I am not interested. Do you want to have a discussion or set me up to try to knock me down with your straw man approach. Don't worry. I see your tactic, but you fail to understand this is Empty on this side.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Are you now his protector because he has exposed his weakness and Big Buddhish Man must now step in because he cannot defend himself?
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Discussions involve a give and take. What you wish to do is lecture. You don't understand that your arguments are not particularly compelling. I guess you have hashed over this stuff for so long that you cannot see the holes in your thinking.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Hehe. I certainly don't need anyone to defend me, especially against you.
Take a deep breath and relax.You are promoting a bogus idea based on highly questionable sources. Again, I suppose you have been swallowing this stuff for so long you no longer can see that it doesn't really make much sense. I appreciate that you have a significant emotional investment in all this, but you must try to appreciate that it is not generally a wise move to alienate your target audience or are you just looking for well behaved sheep to follow your bleating?
Sadly, it is 2:41 am and I really should go to bed... Remember... breath... be calm... relax...
godnotgod
Thou art That
So you are claiming to be enlightened then. Good luck with finding some loyal devotees, I think you'll need it!
Nope. You are claiming that I am enlightened. I have never made such a claim, but if I had, so what? Both of you are setting up a straw man attack. I just happen to know your trix, which you both resort to because you fail to grasp the meaning of my explanation, which is really quite simple. Truth is, both of you are in denial because the truth is a threat to your thumb-sucking positions of security. Neither of you really want to discuss the issue, and only want to label things as nonsense in order to dismiss them, and continue on with your tired and drab explanations of reality....but.... THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG! GET IT?
godnotgod
Thou art That
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I have already stated that changeless whatever would not even relate to change. Try again. That is one example. Change would be outside of its experience and be counter-intuitive. In general, reality does not tend to flow against its own nature.
Good night and keep breathing.... relax... be calm...
godnotgod
Thou art That
Hehe. I certainly don't need anyone to defend me, especially against you.
You are promoting a bogus idea based on highly questionable sources. Again, I suppose you have been swallowing this stuff for so long you no longer can see that it doesn't really make much sense. I appreciate that you have a significant emotional investment in all this, but you must try to appreciate that it is not generally a wise move to alienate your target audience or are you just looking for well behaved sheep to follow your bleating?
Sadly, it is 2:41 am and I really should go to bed... Remember... breath... be calm... relax...
Hey, I don't care what you think of me personally. That is your department. All I am saying, to repeat, is that for you to detect change, it must be seen against a reference, and that reference is that which does not change. Really first grade stuff, and if you really don't get it, you need to take a closer look until you do. Never mind the sources; just go see for yourself. I am not looking for a following. I tell it like it is, and they don't want to see it, OK. I'm not here to please anyone in a popularity contest.
Look, if you don't like my argument, then attack the argument, and stop making all this crap up about my person. You are the one accusing me of not wanting to have a discussion, and yet you are the one going off into all these tangents. So are you intelligent enough to bypass the personal crap and get to the meat of the subject or not?
godnotgod
Thou art That
Hehe. I certainly don't need anyone to defend me, especially against you.
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What? Relax and enjoy your crap?
What you need is to learn to use logic and reasoning to see how the relative opposites work together as complimentary forces. The way to do this is to relax...take a deep breath...clear your mind...and open your eyes.
See?
godnotgod
Thou art That
The opposite of change is that which does not change. That is their relationship, and the one cannot exist without the other. This is obvious to a simpleton.
I see that you have changed your view by omitting the idea of a changeless being. Once you understand the relationship of change to the changeless, you will also again change your view. This is not my personal viewpoint or a matter of opinion; it's just a principle of how things work. Sorry if you fail to understand this.
godnotgod
Thou art That
My religion is ice-cream now. I seek the purity of vanilla, so your new-age Neapolitan is of little interest.
I say your religion is fickle, and changes with every breeze that blows.
It's not purity you seek, but sterility and security.
You are the type that carries a load of preconceived notions of how reality should be, wandering from teaching to teaching in search of confirmation of those preconceptions, but never finds it, because you are not living in reality, but in some sort of fictionalized account of reality.
godnotgod
Thou art That
PS: Thanks for outing yourself as being enlightened.
I didn't opt out. I just never made the claim that I am. That would be like claiming that humans breathe air. There's no point in doing so.
But I suppose you are happy you think I outed myself as enlightened because it means you are less threatened now. Nightie night. I'll leave the light on for you, poopsie!
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