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Rittenhouse, the proof is in the pudding....

9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
InChrist said:
From what I’ve read Kyle Rittenhouse was there because he
worked that day as a community lifeguard in Kenosha. After work, he wanted to help clean up some of the damage, so he and a friend went to the local public high school to remove graffiti by rioters. It does not appear that he went there to insert himself into the situation as a vigilante.
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Between then and when he shot 3 people, he had armed himself, taken up a position at (IIRC) a used car lot, and in his interview, described himself as a "medic" for the vigilante group he was with.

... so it seems at some point, he did decide to insert himself into the situation as a vigilante.
 
Aštra’el

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
9-10ths_Penguin said:
Why did Rittenhouse decide to come to Kenosha at all? Why did he decide to insert himself into a situation? Do you want vigilante groups like Rittenhouse's to continue to insert themselves into - and worsen the consequences of - political protest?
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Do I want Americans to stand up and defend our cities from rioters?

Rioters who loot our businesses, rioters who set fire to our stores/ restaurants/ cop cars/ police stations, rioters who vandalize our cities with graffiti, rioters who attack our police, rioters who physically assault our people who happen to harbor different political views than those attacking them, rioters who utilize violence and crime to try and force others to adopt their political views?

Yes, absolutely.

I want America to make Hell for these people while they are rioting, by defending their homes, defending their loved ones, defending their businesses, and defending their cities from those whose would destroy it all in the name of politics and try and seize for themselves that which we have earned and built ourselves.
 
9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Aštra’el said:
Do I want Americans to stand up and defend our cities from rioters? Rioters who loot our businesses, rioters who set fire to our stores/ restaurants/ cop cars/ police stations, rioters who vandalize our cities with graffiti, rioters who attack our police, rioters who physically assault our people who happen to harbor different political views than those attacking them, rioters who utilize violence and crime to try and force others to adopt their political views?

Yes, absolutely.

I want America to make Hell for these people while they are rioting, by defending their homes, defending their loved ones, defending their businesses, and defending their cities from those whose would destroy it all in the name of politics and try and seize for themselves that which we have earned and built ourselves.
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Don't pretend that violence in support of white supremacy is noble or good.

A cop car is more likely to be burned in the party after a Stanley Cup win than at a BLM protest. Your focus on BLM is either misinformed or being driven by something other than concern about "rioters."
 
SA Huguenot

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
9-10ths_Penguin said:
Then that's a difference between you and Rittenhouse: he wasn't a soldier; he was a vigilante. He had no legitimate reason to be at the protest in the first place.

From your posts in the thread it seems like the racism of what Rittenhouse was doing really resonates with you, so this will probably fall on deaf ears, but for anyone else: while the details of what happened are important for the criminal trial, every now and then step back from those details and consider the big picture: why did Rittenhouse decide to come to Kenosha at all? Why did he decide to insert himself into a situation? Do you want vigilante groups like Rittenhouse's to continue to insert themselves into - and worsen the consequences of - political protest?
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WHAt?
Rittenhouse Racist?
I am a racist?
Rittenhouse a vigilante?
You were watching CNN and dont even know why Rittenhouse were there?
Why not the voewpoint from the evidence in court, but CNN viewpoint?

Are you not ashamed to slander this man just as Joe Biden did?

The same as Nick Sandman was accused of being racist to Nathan Phillips.
CNN spread the story of this Racist, and never looked at the facts not bothering to slander this inocent boy.
Well they paid dearly for this gross lie!

And the sad part is that you are one of CNN's viewers hwo was brainwashed into thinking that Ritterhouse MUST BE A RACIST!

Shame on jou and Joe Biden for spreading such a slanderous lie!
You need to reflect on your agressive attacks, and apologise for this terrible thing you are doing.
 
SA Huguenot

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
9-10ths_Penguin said:
Don't pretend that violence in support of white supremacy is noble or good.

A cop car is more likely to be burned in the party after a Stanley Cup win than at a BLM protest. Your focus on BLM is either misinformed or being driven by something other than concern about "rioters."
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Are you realising what you are saying pal?
How many people died...no how many children was murdered due to BLM destroying everything around them and banning / defunding police?
Howmany police officers was murdered in cold blood by vigilantes?
I remember the footage of a female and male officer sitting in a car having doughnuts for breakfast after working a full shift gets shor in the face by a cowardly BLM terrorist, and the Dems think it was justice?
BLM and Antifa is the lowest form of life that does not deserve to exist.
Anyone thinking, such as you, that because there are other riots, it is fine to compare what BLM and Antifa did with that, realy does not have any respect for authority, and private propperty.

And show me where this "violence in support of white supremacy" you are referring too exists.
The only violence I see is BLM and Antifa!

And, try to come for my property, and I will sort you out quickly.
And it is called Civil defence, not Racism!
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
SA Huguenot said:
Are you realising what you are saying pal?
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I wouldn't take such claims seriously. Many on the left cry
"Racist!" & "White supremacist!" at nearly everyone they
disagree with. It's just a default insult...a loathed stereotype.

As for BLM & Antifa....they're not all bad. I dare say there
are many fine people among them. But they do have some
malefactors in their midst. A problem is that the left will defend
them when they become violent & destructive. Right or left,
such violence should be opposed.
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
No reason to depend solely on the media's interpretation when the trial is live broadcast. An interesting development, the judge will make the final jury selection, the 12, now through lottery. Good chance the only black juror may sit out as an alternate.
 
amorphous_constellation

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
Stevicus said:
He chose to go up there
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Well I think they all sort of chose to be there, obviously. And that really, none of them should be there. I can't relate to character choices (if can call them that) of anyone on the scene, I think all of them seem to looking for trouble in some capacity. I think maybe what we are trying to do here, is put a pretty frame around the picture of crap: obviously we are talking about a scene, objectively, that illustrates some kind of societal breakdown. In other words, maybe there is nothing to logically dissect with what any of these people were doing
 
amorphous_constellation

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
SA Huguenot said:
hey learned to respect people, police, and propperty.
They never broke the law so far, and they are well ballanced citizens.
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I think a difference between a right wing view and my view is that, I see things like birth control or even abortion as options for parents who start to become unsure of themselves. But similarly to someone like you in some sense, I like the idea of people having upstanding character in society.

So that kind of makes me politically homeless, if you think about it. Because typically, an american with your view would want to force reproduction in most instances. To the left wing however, they want to allow it, but seem to turn a blinder eye to anti-social character traits, that probably seem often (though not in all cases) to stem from inadequate developmental structure, at least in part.

I do have faith that everyone can strengthen their individuality to become the best they can be, but think that developmental structure can be more optimized to attain that

Growing up with an alcoholic father for example, I made the personal choice never to drink, or to become a junkie. But I was playing against a stronger deck, in some sense
 
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Guitar's Cry

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Wildswanderer said:
As opposed to armed felons who attack 17 year olds?
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Correction: A 17 year old carrying a rifle in an area of civil unrest.

Since the quote you were responding to was a response to the suggestion that there was stupidity on both sides and two wrongs don't make a right, I did not suggest opposition.
 
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metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Based on Wisconsin law, I think that the verdict of not guilty is likely the correct one. They say that the high-resolution drone recording clearly shows that.
 
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