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Rittenhouse, the proof is in the pudding....

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I already explained this to you. You are grasping at straws now. It would be so easy to set up an innocent who had been abused by the system. And yes, over charging someone using the legal system is abuse.
Arguing that Rittenhouse was "set up" implies that it wasn't just an innocent "OK" sign, but that Rittenhouse was duped into making a white power sign without his knowledge of the sign's meaning.

What you're doing right now is called "kettle logic":

There wasn't anything wrong with his 'okay' gesture! It's all innocent!

... but if it wasn't innocent, he was duped into doing it!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Arguing that Rittenhouse was "set up" implies that it wasn't just an innocent "OK" sign, but that Rittenhouse was duped into making a white power sign without his knowledge of the sign's meaning.

What you're doing right now is called "kettle logic":

There wasn't anything wrong with his 'okay' gesture! It's all innocent!

... but if it wasn't innocent, he was duped into doing it!
No, I am being realistic. You are still trying to lynch him.

You are also quite wrong. I never denied that he made the okay sign. I explained how easy it would be for those that use it for their own purposes to get an abused person to flash it for their own purposes. You have created a false narrative. Think about it. His life has been thoroughly put through the wringer and this was the only incident of him ever being around a white supremacist group.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
No, I am being realistic. You are still trying to lynch him.
Having a negative opinion of someone is hardly "lynching" them.


You are also quite wrong. I never denied that he made the okay sign. I explained how easy it would be for those that use it for their own purposes to get an abused person to flash it for their own purposes.
That was the most recent version of your argument, yes. Before that, you argued that it was just an inocuous "okay" sign.

You have created a false narrative. Think about it. His life has been thoroughly put through the wringer and this was the only incident of him ever being around a white supremacist group.
It's the only incident where photos made the press. Whether it's the only time it happened... I have no idea and neither do you.

As for the consequences for Rittenhouse... I think the expression is "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." As a 17-year-old fed with right-winger rhetoric, he may not have had a clear idea of just how serious the consequences could be of playing soldier in the middle of a riot, but I'm sure he heard that old adage "better judged by 12 than carried by 6" enough times to know that killing a few people will probably end up with you judged by 12.

And it isn't over yet. He should expect the civil suits that are certainly coming.

Car Source should get ready as well, if Rittenhouse's testimony is truthful. If Rittenhouse really has no assets, then Car Source will be the "deep pockets" that will bear the brunt of the cost of any award... and if Car Source really did hire an underage, unlicensed, untrained security guard who ended up shooting 3 people while "on duty" for them, there's a fair bit of liability on their shoulders.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Only in the eyes of those that have been programed by those that see a white suremacist behind every bush.
You just have to look behind some bushes.
  1. Did Kyle go to a KKK meeting with a weapon to prevent damage or violence by whites against blacks or blacks' properties?
  2. Did Kyle go to a Black Lives Matter with a weapon to prevent damage or violence by blacks against whites or whites' properties?
Your comment is reminiscent of comments made by Trump supporters: "Why do you believe the media when they say Trump lies?"

I don't have to believe to media to know that Trump lies. I only have to listen to his own speeches and comments.

Likewise, I haven't been "programmed" to see white supremists everywhere. I look at the extensive videos of the Jan 6th riots and I can see white supremists.

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One doesn't need to be indoctrinated. One just has to open his eyes and see.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
You just have to look behind some bushes.
  1. Did Kyle go to a KKK meeting with a weapon to prevent damage or violence by whites against blacks or blacks' properties?
  2. Did Kyle go to a Black Lives Matter with a weapon to prevent damage or violence by blacks against whites or whites' properties?
Your comment is reminiscent of comments made by Trump supporters: "Why do you believe the media when they say Trump lies?"

I don't have to believe to media to know that Trump lies. I only have to listen to his own speeches and comments.

Likewise, I haven't been "programmed" to see white supremists everywhere. I look at the extensive videos of the Jan 6th riots and I can see white supremists.



One doesn't need to be indoctrinated. One just has to open his eyes and see.
The path of the novice is paved with the cobblestones of the righteous, and the mortar of the people
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't have to believe to media to know that Trump lies. I only have to listen to his own speeches and comments.
Amen to that. Even some members of his own party have called him a "pathological liar" or words to that effect. But he has strong appeal to white supremists, right-wing militia groups, and those who would just love to have him as "Dictator of the United States".
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
If anyone outside of the USA were to listen to the US cable media companies, one would think that the whites, especially the conservatists, are the worlds' greatest racists and haters of liberalism.

As it is with all the huge strawmen, politicians like to construct to suit their bias, and the leftist socialist communist media outlets painting the pictures for us to absorb as part of their political propaganda; one will think the Rittenhouse courtcase would be the best covered story to show the world how a white supremacist killed 2 inocent protestors, and wounded another out of hatred of the left, especially Black people at "Peacefull rallies"!!!

Well, surprise, surprise...
Very little are broadcasted by CNN, MSNBC, ABC and the rest!

If we want to have first hand information on what is wrong in the USA, from the Democratic party, the courts, the US President, and the Media, the courtcase of Rittenhouse is the mascot of revelation on how the American people are brainwashed by leftist lies!!

It is incredible!
All the state prosecuter's witnesses who testified was either cought lying, or found testifying FOR RITTENHOUSE!
this videoclip from Fox just shows how bias the so called "Fake Media" were in their reporting, and how silent they are now.
Even Joe Biden made statements about this case which made an inocent man guilty of a crime, after he fought 3 times for his life.
He killed 2 in self defence, and wounded one person who pointed a gun at his face at point blank.

The media, and Joe Biden accused the man of travelling to another state, to KILL BECAUSE HE IS A TRUMP SUPPORTER and HE WAS BRAINWASHED BY TRUMP!

What do you say?
Will these "Journalists ever apologise to Rittenhouse?
Will Joe Biden apologise?
Will any of these idiots be held accountable for the poison their mouths spit, and the lies they fed to their viewers?

I dont think they will ever apologise, or be held accountable, except by the American people who will just stop to watch these networks.
As we already see, these lying media outlets are loosing their viewers, and they just do not know how to save their companies whilst at the same time they have to support Biden and the Dem leaders.

Well, long live the American people who slowly but surely are in uprising against leftist liberalism, socialism, and communist infiltration in the univercities and schools!
they are aware of the fake news' agenda, and the Democratic communist plans.
I am of opinion that these fake news agencies will eventually just melt away, as does the votes of the American people for the Democrat leadership.

Tucker Carlson reacts to Kyle Rittenhouse trial: it's a disaster

Oh, and for those that say Fox news are bias, please look at the facts reported by Fox before making that statement.
So where's the pudding?
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Well... I know they are not much to to look at, but the feral Portland rioters will just have to do.
You mean, those "feral" rioters who caused no person physical harm, and literally only damaged property?

As opposed to a "peaceful" and, I presume, "civilized" coup that cost five people their lives?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Hey, whatever floats your boat!

In my opinion why don't we just call it as it is.....
-The left thinks he's a criminal
-The right thinks he's a hero
.....
Then people that don't like the left or right(like me) think he's an immature kid that didn't know what he was getting into and he shouldn't have been there.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
FWI, I referred to the Anti Defamation League.
I'm pointing out how white supremacists use the hand gesture to mean something other than it's original use. Some here are defending the gesture saying it's not related to anything white supremacist.
I think people are being dishonest when they don't acknowledge the connection.
 

Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
It's utterly stupid to make such a commonly used
benign symbol be treated thus. Likely most using
it without it's new evil meaning. Seems dishonest.

It used to mean "made you look" as well. But now it's being used, sadly, as a racist dogwhistle. The KKK in my area uses it a lot to identify themselves, since other "secret" dogwhistles are well known and don't work anymore.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It used to mean "made you look" as well. But now it's being used, sadly, as a racist dogwhistle. The KKK in my area uses it a lot to identify themselves, since other "secret" dogwhistles are well known and don't work anymore.
I guess that now Malcolm & Reese are white supremacists.
 
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