Ritual Religious Animal Sacrifice

[Skwim]

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"At around 7pm on Friday, Bexar County Sheriff's Office deputies responded to a call in west Bexar County after neighbours reported seeing animals being sacrificed with knives – and found 12-14 people in a garage apparently committing the grisly deed.

“One of the other persons was holding up a chicken and draining blood into a container.

“There was containers there. There was heads of what looked like goats and animals dead and alive inside.”

Gonzalez told The San Antonio Express that police saw a woman cutting up animal parts while another person was draining the blood of a chicken into a container.

Deputies found additional mutilated animals inside the home, including goat heads and more chickens.
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And Why or why not?

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[Altfish]

Don't agree with it at all. AND if our governments feel it necessary to appease various religious people then all meat should be suitably labelled so I and others can avoid ritually sacrificed meat.

 

[suncowiam]

Are they going to eat the animals?

Well, I'm probably a good reason why many animals are dying already so should I get technical and suggest its about chopping off heads?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Sure, as long as it's done humanely. The situation in the article sounds like a mess and the people didn't know what they were doing.

 

[Mindmaster]

And Why or why not?

I don't particularly see the point nor reason to ever do these things, but that is because I'm a non-dual adherent. You could sacrifice vegetables, fruit, and grains to a flame and it's the same action spiritually just far less grisly. Dualistic perspectives in folk religions sort of cultivate this nonsense because there is something outside of one that must be appeased. If you have limited understanding you're going to presume that blood is the ultimate sacrifice, but if you think that is the case, why not use your own?

In America, this practice is still legal provided you consume the animal killed and it is not a pet type of creature. You are also not allowed to abuse the animal or kill it in ways that prolong the death.

Personally, I just think harming animals in a ritualistic sense is spiritually impure. It reflects a 'doing' of something harmful and isn't even the ultimate sacrifice. (Ones own blood would be, as it would be a true sacrifice.) It's just a parody of that by people who misunderstand the meaning. I mean, how do you even know your gods want it in the first place, or that they wouldn't accept something else? Lots of presumptions there and herein lies the dilemma.

 

[Aldrnari]

I guess for me it depends. If an animal is killed humanely, and the animal's meat isn't wasted, then I suppose it wouldn't bother me too much, in theory.

I would fish with a guy who was from the Puyallup tribe, and if he were successful in catching a fish, he would thank the river by filleting the fish right there and throwing the bones back into that river (he kept a cooler with him to put the meat in). That kind of thing doesn't bother me too much.

Now, as for my neighbor draining the blood of animals in their garage next door? I might find that a bit disconcerting...

 

[Nakosis]

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"At around 7pm on Friday, Bexar County Sheriff's Office deputies responded to a call in west Bexar County after neighbours reported seeing animals being sacrificed with knives – and found 12-14 people in a garage apparently committing the grisly deed.

“One of the other persons was holding up a chicken and draining blood into a container.

“There was containers there. There was heads of what looked like goats and animals dead and alive inside.”

Gonzalez told The San Antonio Express that police saw a woman cutting up animal parts while another person was draining the blood of a chicken into a container.

Deputies found additional mutilated animals inside the home, including goat heads and more chickens.
source
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And Why or why not?

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I imagine how many chickens are killed everyday to feed Americans à la chicken nuggets.

I don't like it but, because they are being killed for a religious ritual makes it immoral somehow?

Religious animal sacrifice is an ignorant barbaric practice but freedom of religion and all that.

 

[Liu]

I don't particularly see the point nor reason to ever do these things, but that is because I'm a non-dual adherent. You could sacrifice vegetables, fruit, and grains to a flame and it's the same action spiritually just far less grisly. Dualistic perspectives in folk religions sort of cultivate this nonsense because there is something outside of one that must be appeased.

Also from a non-dual perspective it might make sense to do so for psychological reasons, or just because one prefers it oneself.
But I get your point, most people simply don't think it through.

I mean, how do you even know your gods want it in the first place, or that they wouldn't accept something else?

By asking them, I would suppose, or by judging from their reactions - assuming that there are gods and that they would be willing to communicate and/or that they react at all to a sacrifice.

 

[Mindmaster]

By asking them, I would suppose, or by judging from their reactions - assuming that there are gods and that they would be willing to communicate and/or that they react at all to a sacrifice.

It's a lot of presuming, like even the gods care for your sacrifice.

It's probably that they are doing it by rote repetition, have no understanding, and simply act because someone else told them to. It's just about the worst spiritual place I can perceive you to be in - where you lack the personal gnosis to differentiate from the rote and the real. Stuff like this is just putting ammunition in every anti-theists weapon. They don't understand that their actions reflect horribly on all religion, not just their own. Perhaps, this is the worst of it.

 

[Jumi]

I don't see much difference, if you're a meat eater. As long the animals aren't purposely made to suffer any more than necessary.

 

[BSM1]

Sure. Kill 'em.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sure, as long as it's done humanely. The situation in the article sounds like a mess and the people didn't know what they were doing.

Pretty much my thoughts. Since I eat meat I would be rather hypocritical if I denied their ability to sacrifice merely because they were killing animals. The situation they found sounds like a total clusterf@$&.

Also the language was probably Creole from Haiti. At least what they are doing sounds like Voodoo to me.

On a related note that article had a link to an article on the snapping turtle that was allegedly fed a puppy. It as euthanized.

 

[Father Heathen]

If the killing is done as humanely as possible, and the meat doesn't go to waste, then it's not much different from what goes on in industrial slaughterhouses.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Sounds like they were from another country given they we're talking in a different language.

What kind of religion was it? Sounds like some kind of voodoo cult.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

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"At around 7pm on Friday, Bexar County Sheriff's Office deputies responded to a call in west Bexar County after neighbours reported seeing animals being sacrificed with knives – and found 12-14 people in a garage apparently committing the grisly deed.

“One of the other persons was holding up a chicken and draining blood into a container.

“There was containers there. There was heads of what looked like goats and animals dead and alive inside.”

Gonzalez told The San Antonio Express that police saw a woman cutting up animal parts while another person was draining the blood of a chicken into a container.

Deputies found additional mutilated animals inside the home, including goat heads and more chickens.
source
​

And Why or why not?

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Doesn't sound any less gruesome than the factory-farming industry to be perfectly honest.

Sure, as long as it's done humanely. The situation in the article sounds like a mess and the people didn't know what they were doing.

Killing something that doesn't need to die is inherently inhumane though.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Killing something that doesn't need to die is inherently inhumane though.

Are you vegan? If not, that's just hypocrisy.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Sounds like they were from another country given they we're talking in a different language.

What kind of religion was it? Sounds like some kind of voodoo cult.

It was most likely an African diasporic religion like Voodoo or Santeria. The language they were speaking, as mentioned before, was likely Creole. The reporting on this is shoddy and ignorant.

 

[Father Heathen]

Are you vegan? If not, that's just hypocrisy.

Not to digress, but one thing that has always annoyed me are non-vegans who denounce hunting as cruel.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Are they going to eat the animals?

They're preparing the meat; yes, they're going to eat it. It's really just religious butchering, and it freaks people out only because they've never seen butchering and essentially think meat comes from Krogers.

 

[suncowiam]

They're preparing the meat; yes, they're going to eat it. It's really just religious butchering, and it freaks people out only because they've never seen butchering and essentially think meat comes from Krogers.

If they're going to eat it then I don't care.

That's probably as quick of a death can be compared to being shot in the body by hunters.