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Your post contains 4 videos, the concept is to use a fuel cell instead of a battery to run the motor.
Elon Musk says many false things, eg....
Again, hydrogen fuel cell tech is old news.
Yes and it will get you a more polluting car but no free energy from water.
Thermodynamics began in the early 1800s.Yes and it will get you a more polluting car but no free energy from water.
Unlike human laws, the scientific version such as Thermodynamics which governs the ideas being proposed cannot be violated no matter how hard someone tries.
Thermodynamics - Wikipedia
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Who is this Stanley Miller, not from Miller-Urey I hope.
It's not even a truck.
Tesla Cybertruck complaints pouring in from owners — here's what's going on
It's expensive, problematic and potentially dangerouswww.tomsguide.com
I have no idea why you & I are arguing.
I argue because I'm right and everybody else is wrong.
What a coincidence!
My mistake. Stanley Meyer, not miller. Totally different person:
It's tested nonsense
In early 2017, a man emailed me that angels told him in his sleep to contact me and he resisted calling me until it became unbearable inside of him and he called me, and thus did I began to get to know a man about half my age, whom I would learn in steps is incredibly skilled at many things. He remembered everything he read. I figured his IQ was around 170. Based on many reports from him of angels visiting and talking with him when he was awake and in his sleep, which was new to him, I told him that he had been dragooned by angels It knew all too well and by angels I did not know well, and to grab his best hold. One of his fields of expertise is he can take apart and put back together just about anything that uses an internal combustion engine: cars, trucks, motorcycles, and tractors. Besides regular cars and trucks, he worked on Lotus, Porsche and Ferrari. He is a welder and a machinist. He taught economics in several colleges. He told me about technology in the U.S. Patent Office in Washington, D.C. that allows cars and trucks to run on hydrogen extracted from tap water for what a local water company charge$ for water. The day before yesterday, I asked him to write it down and he did, and I read it, and we talked about some parts of it, and he added a little more to it, and here it is, and below it are my mechanically retarded thoughts about what should have happened in the 1990s and it would have changed the world as we know it. Here is his email to me:
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The Hydrogen powered car is a reality. When it is looked back on, T. Townsend Brown will be the father. Mr. Brown engineered a series of vehicles and internal combustion engines to run on hydrogen and the hydrogen relative known as Yull Brown’s Gas(HHO also called oxyhydrogen). T.T. Brown did this in his lab at Winston Salem NC. The thing that scared so many people aware of his successes was that violent blowback, backfires, and internal flame were inherently an issue with early development of hydrogen as a fuel. With the flammability/combustibility of hydrogen the gas required careful regulation, precisely machined throttle systems, and owners who would take care of their vehicles. Townsend Brown conceptualized two methods: a fuel cell that would contain hydrogen or brown’s gas and protect driver’s from explosions. Brown also proposed that if an anhydride could be formulated, just as kitty litter soaks up the ammonia from cat urine- the right anhydride could be engineered to suck up hydrogen and render it safe
The Atomic Energy Commission was not so happy with Lazar- the anhydride he was manufacturing could potentially be made with a particle accelerator and in the cleaving of hydrogen from water, someone might make a hydrogen bomb. This in the words of Penn & Teller: bull****! Electrolysis could do no such thing with water, it simply transitions water from a liquid to either hydrogen and oxygen or Brown’s gas.
Nevada Representative and later Senator Harry Reid was no friend of development of hydrogen engine. He encouraged overzealous regulatory behavior which stopped much promising research and development, putting pressure on the AEC which was headquartered at Nevada's National Security Site, known informally as Los Alamos National Laboratory.
Lazar was never allowed to market his system because the AEC was hung up on the anhydride. Because Lazar’s patents were restricted, people cannot look at the rough sketch of his system or his anhydride. Lazar’s technology could be installed in a new or used car or truck. In 1992, Lazar advertised $8,000 to put his tech in a car or truck.
In the meantime, others have had special shielding equipment made into their trunks and they install small to medium cylinders of hydrogen, regulators, and then run metal tubing into their fuel injection systems and some will add different methods of top cylinder lubrication. Some produce their own Brown’s Gas via Electrolysis and some refine it further to just get the hydrogen. They use it to charge their cylinders.
For a car the size of a 4 door Toyota Yaris or Prius the 1.6litre engine can range 220-240 miles off a gallon of water, being very precise with the stoichiometry. A heavier sedan with a 2.0 to 2.2 liter engine can range 200 miles on hydrogen or Brown’s gas generated at home.
However as the National Transportation Safety Administration have pointed out on numerous occasions, tanker trucks(18 wheelers) which haul volatile chemicals in gaseous form or at the precipice of change from liquid to gas, to make the hauling of anhydrous ammonia safer, to make hauling acetylene used in cutting torches, propane= anhydrides have been developed to line the tankers hauled on US highways. Those patents are not trade secrets and they use much prior art that is public. The result is quite simply that anhydrides are being developed by private citizens and private corporations to further reduce the risk of the use of hydrogen as fuel. Different methods and different materials, some inspired by kids toys, some inspired by industrial and agricultural applications, and some inspired by government/armed forces use.
There is tremendous potential energy in water. Burning hydrogen is clean and the combustion of the Brown’s gas can lead to the by-product of oxygen release.
Toyota, GM, Hyundai, and Honda have all built hydrogen vehicles and made them safe enough to lease to people who report excellent driveability. They are:
GM Electrovan
Toyota FCHV
Honda FC
Hyundai Tuscon
Toyota Mirai
It is strange that corporations are several generations into hydrogen vehicles. Private citizen scientists, engineers, and tinkerers are coming up with their own home brew setups. But mass production is headed off by the US federal government and automakers who will only test their vehicles off US shores and not sell them, only lease them. Even when the projects are a success the vehicles are recalled as property of the companies and they are destroyed.
Electric vehicles use electricity we don’t have due to the fact we are using the maximum natural resources we have. The batteries that propel these vehicles eventually quit taking a charge- that is the nature of a battery. The problem is that we then have to deal with the waste created by these huge batteries and much of that waste is toxic. How many Yucca Mountains can we have in this country? We should not have the Yucca Mountain we have.
The Buffalo Springfield band had a song: “There’s something happening here, and what it is ain’t exactly clear… …stop, baby, what’s that sound, everybody look what’s going down...”
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My mechanically retarded thoughts.
Putting the Brown/Lazar technology in new cars and trucks worldwide would make Mother Nature’s land, sea and air creatures and Her waters, land, air and atmosphere very happy, and would destroy the economies of countries whose main cash cow is oil production. Russia would be up **** creek, as would Iran and the oil producing nations in the Middle East and Venezuela. The oil industries in countries like America, Canada, Great Britain and Norway would be devastated.
Adios gas stations in America and everywhere else. Adios Tesla, etc. The cost of car and truck fuel would be so low that it would be irrelevant. The fuel cost saving$ would be MASSIVE in the private, industrial, manufacturing and all business and government sectors.
I live in a 1950s vintage apartment building in Birmingham, Alabama. All of the tenants park their cars and trucks on the street. There are thousands of apartment buildings in Birmingham, which have only street parking. Where will their tenants charge their electric car batteries? Rhetorical question. Where will Birmingham warehouse worn out several thousand pound electric car batteries full of toxic waste?
Every town, city and county in America will be just like Birmingham if America goes to fully electric cars and trucks. Factor in the rest of the world. That’s CRAZY, when cars and trucks can run on tap water, and humanity can save Mother Nature and the Planet and, DUH, humanity and its pocketbook by using the Brown-Lazar technology in cars and trucks.
Please note here that water is not being split to generate hydrogen here. Hydrogen cylinder is already used as fuel and pumped separately. The water is used primarily as a COOLANT during the combustion process to reduce the temperature at which the hydrogen is burning. Hydrogen is extremely explosive, and hence water helps absorb the excess heat, slows down the reaction rate and hence makes hydrogen combustion safer.Water-injected 2.0-liter turbo-four hydrogen engine spits out 410 hp
...When AVL announced last year that its motorsport division AVL Racetech was developing a hydrogen racing engine, it explained that the design would use a water injection system to boost power. It says its intelligent PFI water injection system boosts water into the engine's intake air, thwarting the possibility of premature ignition and lowering the air-fuel ratio from a lean burn to a stoichiometric level. A wastegate turbocharging system supplies the air.
AVL's setup system takes care of lean burn and the low output issues thereof, resulting in a hydrogen ICE with more power production. This month's testing of the prototype 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinder verified the top values from AVL's earlier simulations, seeing the engine develop 410 hp (302 kW) at 6,500 rpm and 369 total lb-ft (500 Nm) between 3,000 and 4,000 rpm. AVL has previously noted that an output of roughly 201 hp-per-liter (150 kW per) would make the engine competitive in modern close-to-production race classes....
Water-injected 2.0-liter turbo-four hydrogen engine spits out 410 hp
Austrian mobility technology company AVL had a pretty good day for itself earlier this month, when it confirmed simulations that showed its prototype 2.0-liter turbo hydrogen race engine developing over 200 hp-per-liter. AVL uses a water-injection system alongside its turbocharger to moderate…newatlas.com
Interesting. The link on hydrogen combustion engines mentions that hydrogen engines are expensive to maintain. No **** Sherlock. For race engines large scale replacement of parts that have undergone hydrogen embrittlement may not be an insurmountable problem. But for a privately owned car the shortened lifetime of the engine would make the car literally a non-starter.
Since we are so relevant here, it's either octopuses, or, if you want to be posh, octopodes, but not octopi.
Hydrogen fuel cells are for electric engines. A hydrogen fuel cell is just another form of a battery, you can switch out a (lithium) battery for a fuel cell. If you can solve the problem of embrittlement, hydrogen may be easier to store and transport than electricity (like in batteries). That might be a topic of scale, while you can make batteries as small as you want, hydrogen tanks may only be viable for big applications.
The point is that the OP isn't referring to hydrogen fuel cells, they're referring to some kind of device put in a car that extracts hydrogen from tap water which is then used as fuel in a conventional ICE engine (while ironically using examples of fuel cell powered vehicles in production as evidence it works).
