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Russia ships new anti-missile system into Syria

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Russia ships new anti-missile system into Syria

Think about this. Russia is supposedly fighting Isis in Syria. But Isis not have the kind of long range missles that this system is designed to counter. Isis does not have plans. So what is this anti-missile anti-air craft system for?

For defend Syrian Army, Russian forces from coalition ?

Last month the Syrian Army got intentional strikes from coalition, while they fighting ISIS !
 

PeteC-UK

Active Member
Hi Folks...

This is actually quite worrying - but I will say here that actually Russia looks to be the GOOD guy here and is responding to lies told by America regarding other missile systems that IT has developed behind closed doors....

Now - I dont speak Russian - but it would be interesting if anyone here could verify what he is saying there..??.. It DOES seem to make sense and if ti is true then Russia are nto event he bad guys here at all..

Recently there have been a lot of this confrontational rhetoric - Russian propoganda - boasts and open warnings - and a definate racking up of tensions between them and the USA...Especially talk of a "new technology" that the Russians say nobody has any idea they possess yet - that could leave entire continent "dead" - electronically speaking - like PERMANANLTY technologically dead - they say it is calm and silent weapon - must be EMP based - and are openly boasting and threatening to use it.....This manouvering we see now - not about Syria at all - like chess they prepare now for an "end game" strategy Im afraid....
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
Russia ships new anti-missile system into Syria

Think about this. Russia is supposedly fighting Isis in Syria. But Isis not have the kind of long range missles that this system is designed to counter. Isis does not have plans. So what is this anti-missile anti-air craft system for?


They are and they don't want America to interfere with their initiative. It is another message to the US to stay out.
There is no easy answer but to avoid the conflict and let it take place at this point. Russia already has the US against the ropes in this matter.
One mis-step or poor choice would be all it took to trigger a serious problem.
 
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Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
For defend Syrian Army, Russian forces from coalition ?

Last month the Syrian Army got intentional strikes from coalition, while they fighting ISIS !

Poor choice after poor choice. Now they are considering arming terrorists to fight terrorists, the same terrorists who dislike a fellow coalition country.
And when they do all of this, they are also fighting Russia.

Definitely a message for the coalition to stay out, they've created enough of a mess.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Poor choice after poor choice. Now they are considering arming terrorists to fight terrorists, the same terrorists who dislike a fellow coalition country.
And when they do all of this, they are also fighting Russia.

Definitely a message for the coalition to stay out, they've created enough of a mess.
I do believe if coalition are fighting seriouslly the terrorists,and seriouslly stop supply them by weapons, they(terrorists) suppose be defeated for long time ago.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
I do believe if coalition are fighting seriouslly the terrorists,and seriouslly stop supply them by weapons, they(terrorists) suppose be defeated for long time ago.

In my opinion, I believe that this link sums up what's really going on.

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle...t/news-story/74efcba9554c10bd35e280b63a9afb74

It is obvious that alleged terrorists are being supplied and funded to help overthrow Assad, for this pipeline. While Russia is helping fight these alleged terrorists and also because a lot of their economy hinges on natural gas.

Then we see Hillary's ties to Quatar and Saudi Arabia, the funding and arming of alleged terrorists. People wondering what the hell Turkey is even doing in NATO. All starts to become more obvious. Benghazi arms smuggling. Libya. Obama's Syrian policy.

Meanwhile, it's the civilian common folk who suffer from greed and power.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Another big win for the Obama administration.
Got to love their brilliant foreign policy maneuvers.

Hillary's "reset" seems to be going fabulously... :rolleyes:o_O:confused:
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
Another big win for the Obama administration.
Got to love their brilliant foreign policy maneuvers.

Hillary's "reset" seems to be going fabulously... :rolleyes:o_O:confused:

I think that they are brilliant. They have alleged terrorists fighting for them, whom they are supplying. They have many in the world believing Assad is the enemy, and that Assad is the priority over alleged Isis. When it's all about the gas.

That's why Obama and Hillary have done nothing but cater to players in the gas ordeal like Saudia Arabia and Quatar. Then they look like the good guys once more with the acceptance of refugees.

Quite a brilliant scheme. https://www.google.com/amp/s/themar...the-establishment-has-lied/amp/?client=safari
 
It is obvious that alleged terrorists are being supplied and funded to help overthrow Assad, for this pipeline.

Pipeline :D

Wish people could come up with a new 'hidden agenda' for once. There's only so many pipeline rehashes that you can stomach.

Dig around and you will find the same arguments being made about Afghanistan War, Iraq War and even as far back as the Kosovo War. Was BS then and it's BS now.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
Pipeline :D

Wish people could come up with a new 'hidden agenda' for once. There's only so many pipeline rehashes that you can stomach.

Dig around and you will find the same arguments being made about Afghanistan War, Iraq War and even as far back as the Kosovo War. Was BS then and it's BS now.

Right, greed and power never is the hidden underlying reason for war.
Signed, "the naive and guillable."
 
Right, greed and power never is the hidden underlying reason for war.
Signed, "the naive and guillable."

Yes yes. It's naive and gullible to point out that the same argument has been rehashed ad nauseam without ever actually having come true. But hey kids, maybe this time it actually will come true! :rolleyes:

On the other hand it displays the most admirable degree of scepticism and intellectual probity to take absolutely everything seen as 'anti-establishment' at face value and parrot it uncritically because there is no record of any "anti-establishment" figure ever being untruthful, self-serving or just downright wrong.

Arab Spring. Syrian uprising. Sectarian Assad regime responds violently. Sectarian Sunnis support opposition. Sectarian Shia support Assad. America sides with Sunni allies. Everything goes to **** like usual. ISIS. Bombing. More ineptitude. Russia joins in to protect its political and military interests in the survival of the Assad regime and to show up Western weakness in military issues.

or perhaps...

Assad, lovely chap. Let's kill everyone with terrorists and build a pipeline!
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
Yes yes. It's naive and gullible to point out that the same argument has been rehashed ad nauseam without ever actually having come true. But hey kids, maybe this time it actually will come true! :rolleyes:

On the other hand it displays the most admirable degree of scepticism and intellectual probity to take absolutely everything seen as 'anti-establishment' at face value and parrot it uncritically because there is no record of any "anti-establishment" figure ever being untruthful, self-serving or just downright wrong.

Arab Spring. Syrian uprising. Sectarian Assad regime responds violently. Sectarian Sunnis support opposition. Sectarian Shia support Assad. America sides with Sunni allies. Everything goes to **** like usual. ISIS. Bombing. More ineptitude. Russia joins in to protect its political and military interests in the survival of the Assad regime and to show up Western weakness in military issues.

or perhaps...

Assad, lovely chap. Let's kill everyone with terrorists and build a pipeline!

Good start for them,

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...rgy-summit-in-istanbul.amp.html?client=safari
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
Yes yes. It's naive and gullible to point out that the same argument has been rehashed ad nauseam without ever actually having come true. But hey kids, maybe this time it actually will come true! :rolleyes:

On the other hand it displays the most admirable degree of scepticism and intellectual probity to take absolutely everything seen as 'anti-establishment' at face value and parrot it uncritically because there is no record of any "anti-establishment" figure ever being untruthful, self-serving or just downright wrong.

Arab Spring. Syrian uprising. Sectarian Assad regime responds violently. Sectarian Sunnis support opposition. Sectarian Shia support Assad. America sides with Sunni allies. Everything goes to **** like usual. ISIS. Bombing. More ineptitude. Russia joins in to protect its political and military interests in the survival of the Assad regime and to show up Western weakness in military issues.

or perhaps...

Assad, lovely chap. Let's kill everyone with terrorists and build a pipeline!

Do the guillable and naive continue to believe that Assad is priority over alleged terrorist organizations?
 

What has a pipeline in Turkey got to do with creating Syrian terrorists to overthrow Assad to build one in Syria. I wasn't doubting that pipelines actually existed.

Given that terrorists have a habit of blowing up oil pipelines, seems to me that massive destabilisation is not an ideal precursor to large and vulnerable engineering projects.

Pipelines can also be built under the sea, but at greater expense. The cost of supporting a multi year war somewhat renders that saving irrelevant though.

Do the guillable and naive continue to believe that Assad is priority over alleged terrorist organizations?

Quite a few of them seem to think Assad is actually a good guy who is on 'our side', was loved by his people and that the massive popular uprising against his regime was some kind of manufactured conspiracy.

The Syrian people got ****ed by Assad and ****ed by jihadis.

No real solution in the short term. It's not as if Assad can provide stability even if he 'wins'. It's not like either side 'winning' won't involve massive civilian casualties. It's not like Assad remaining nominally in power will make the West any safer and offer any hope to the country.

The country probably needs to be split up.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
In my opinion, I believe that this link sums up what's really going on.

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle...t/news-story/74efcba9554c10bd35e280b63a9afb74

It is obvious that alleged terrorists are being supplied and funded to help overthrow Assad, for this pipeline. While Russia is helping fight these alleged terrorists and also because a lot of their economy hinges on natural gas.

Then we see Hillary's ties to Quatar and Saudi Arabia, the funding and arming of alleged terrorists. People wondering what the hell Turkey is even doing in NATO. All starts to become more obvious. Benghazi arms smuggling. Libya. Obama's Syrian policy.

Meanwhile, it's the civilian common folk who suffer from greed and power.
That's probably Western side claims.
I don't believe that weapons that supplies to rebels, went ONLY to rebels, I am very suspect that there is rebels in first place, they could defeat Syrian Army.

and I do believe Saudis and Qatars and may also Turkey in same caes are just follow the instructions of West.they are just remote controle regimes.don't have upper hand.
 
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