Salvation and achieving happiness !!

[krushna]

Humble pranamas to all

Respected devotees,

Anand(happiness) as described in chadogya upanishad and shastras is ananta(unlimited) in nature,ever increasing (prati kshanam vardhamanam),is of chetan svabhav and nitya nutana in golok.

While in this planet the amount of happiness we get is little and that to remains only for a short period of time,for ex - you are eating a sweet,while chewing the first sweet you feel aah and second time less and finally ends. Also the happiness you experience is limited to that region and not pervading throughout the body.

So to attain that happiness we have to surrender to guru and lord krishna,with meekness and pray.

At the current age, Jagadguru shri kripalu maharaj is a qualified guru who other than being a scholar is a topmost devotee of the lord.

And after we surrender unto him by mind and body,and when we too get qualified by following his instructions then he will impart divine knowledge and make our senses divine by which we will get pratyaksh darshan of krishna and get that spiritual happiness.

I was informed of kripaluji maharaj by 3 iskcon devotees here in tirupati,who were not satisfied by the diksa(initiation) process in iskcon,as they said to me that neither their kama or krodha(anger) went away, when they took diksha and many other things.

As maharajji says in a pravchan the moment you take diksha from a guru,immediately one will be freed from these six enemies(kama,krodha,lobha,irshya,mada,matsarya) for ever,bondage to three karma's is nullified(sancit,prarabdh,kriyaman karm) ,pancha klesh,pancha kosh,tritaap,trigun etc ., all these sufferings are nullified and that ananda from time immorial for which we were hankering is achieved,i.e one get's pratyksh darshan of sri krishna and his parikara(this happens because of the svarup shakti which makes the senses divine) and your real form(siddha deha) in golok is revealed to you .

Search for the following video by maharajji on happiness in youtube -- "Path to ultimate happiness - Jagadguru shri kriapluji maharaj".

About diksha,see - brahm jeev maya 036 from 39:23


Pranam - krushna.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Kripalu Maharaj is one of my favorites though I am an atheist 'advaitist' Hindu. Krishna also is one of my favorites. (go figure)

 

[ratikala]

koti koti pranams krushna ji :namaste

welcome

Humble pranamas to all

Respected devotees,

Anand(happiness) as described in chadogya upanishad and shastras is ananta(unlimited) in nature,ever increasing (prati kshanam vardhamanam),is of chetan svabhav and nitya nutana in golok.

While in this planet the amount of happiness we get is little and that to remains only for a short period of time,for ex - you are eating a sweet,while chewing the first sweet you feel aah and second time less and finally ends. Also the happiness you experience is limited to that region and not pervading throughout the body.

So to attain that happiness we have to surrender to guru and lord krishna,with meekness and pray.

very simply if one is not fully surrendered one will not find lasting happiness ,

how can one not be happy in the presence of the lord :namaste:namaste


Tumi Bhaja re Mana,Tumi Japa re Mana.
Om, Shri Ram Jaya Ram Japa re Mana.

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

Namaste.

So, I was waiting in the long welfare queue for an inquiry about my payment, getting increasingly frustrated and annoyed at the time I was left to wait, combined with all these children running around making a loud noise and making a general nuisance of themselves, which ended up in a long internal debate on parenting standards, vs 'yes I know they are just as bored as I am and I cannot blame them from screaming at the top of their little lungs...but seriously'.

Anyway, in the middle of all this, a cute little girl (about 4-5) comes up to me with a 'scuse me, kind lady...but I'm lost and can't seem to find my mummy anywhere and I need to use the toilet. Please help me?'.

I mean, what was I to do? Ignore her big, pleading puppy-eyes? I stepped out of the line, said 'okay, sweetie, let's go and see the security guard about finding your mummy and using the loo'.

I was also the next seen by a social worker, and my case is being given priority process.

Happiness is what you make it due to selfless acts given to others. In retrospect, I know I had darshan of Divine Mother, and those are the things one only becomes aware of in hindsight.

Shiva and Shakti have been reaching out to me, so that is a very good sign - and why I am back.

Om Namah Shivaya

 

[Stormcry]

Pranam , Krushna .....


Iskcon's diksha is a fake . There is no any authentic guru in Iskcon . Beacause they are out of Vedic Hindu Dharma as their scripture is non-vedic ( Chaitanya Charitamrita ) . Many Hindus don't consider it authentic . In regards with vaishnawa Dharma , Hindus view Bhagavata Purana in high esteem . If you study both BG and CC , you will come to know that the philosophy of Bhagavata Purana contradicts with chaitanya charitamrita . Bhagavata Purana explicitly states that the aim of Vedanta is the oneness of Atma & Bramhan. No doubt in this .

Iskcon is a factory in which mlecchas get converted into hindus . But this is against rules of varna dharma. Mlecchas are not allowed to take diksha . As per Shastras , Only bramhanas , Vaishyas & kshatriyas can become dvija .

If shudras and women of hindu society are not allowed for diksha , then What about those castless ? Giving diksha to a mleccha is a sin and Iskcon is just incurring it . That's why you won't find Peace in Iskcon.

 

[ShivaFan]

Namaste

Quote H(luv)K: Iskcon is a factory in which mlecchas get converted into hindus . But this is against rules of varna dharma. Mlecchas are not allowed to take diksha . As per Shastras , Only bramhanas , Vaishyas & kshatriyas can become dvija .

If shudras and women of hindu society are not allowed for diksha , then What about those castless ? Giving diksha to a mleccha is a sin and Iskcon is just incurring it.

This sickness of yours, telling others they cannot be a Hindu based on their birth race, origin, gender, calling Hindus who are better than you mleechas and your race-birth based extremism has no place in this forum.

You repeat this theme often and over again, there is a limit.

You are a racist. You are certainly not an example of a Hindu anything. Stop this insulting of Hinduism and other Hindus based on their race or birth. Your caste extremism is a violation of human rights and promotes genocide.

I repeat, Advaita is not for caste fixated jivas who spend a lot of time praising themselves as superior, this is not Advaita and not selfless but selfish. Those who actually practice "untouchability" are guilty of human rights crimes and are a disgrace to the very concept of One. They do not practice Advaita, they practice ignorance and fear and selfishness.

Above is a picture of German political soldiers humiliating and forcing a Jew to have to crawl on knees while "walking" forward on a public street in Poland because they are low birth, untouchable by birth according to social policy of National Socialism "religion".

Below is a picture of a so-called "low caste by birth" tied to a tree and being publically humiliated and hair cut off by self-appointed abitrators of social ranking and norm accusing her of being a "witch":

This is terrorist harrassment.

Here is a picture from the 1940s USA of separate drinking fountains, one for "whites" and one for "blacks":

This is a form of hate crime and criminal harassment.

The above picture is a pump well in India. Mohan Paswan, so-called "untouchable", was lynched last summer just over one year ago for using this water pump which is off limits to untouchables.

Forcing some caste on another, such forceful humiliations of untouchability or based on birh status or race on others, calling entire populations as "impure race" that calls for the "pure race" to unite and "fight" the "impure race", forcefully roping to a tree and cutting off their hair in public of easily victimized women to humiliate and demonstrate their "low birth", forcefully making another "impure by birth" human walk on the side of the street while "higher caste" passes by, forcefully making some community ring a bell to "warn" others they are approaching because they "have no caste", forcefully making some community wear a yellow ribbon or Star of David to "warn" others they are approaching and marking them as easy targets because they are Jewish, forcefully making another to drink from a separate drinking fountain or well simply because of "birth" or race, is not logical, nor is it religion.

It is terrorism. It is a hate crime.

Don't tell me about the past, however. Let me say something about 2014 and my family, my community, and Hindus of my life.

Anyone who by imposition attempts forced labor or "by birth" demeanial status on me or my family based on race or birth or sex or orientation is guilty of the criminal victimization of me and my family and is guilty of human rights violations and if predicated on religious grounds then such is religious terrorism.

For those who act out genocide, the world is becoming a much smaller distance to travel anywhere, anyplace, anytime, no matter where you are it is becoming difficult to hide from justice in serving your sentence for such crimes.

These matters are not some game. In addition, there is a certain limit in words which go beyond speech rights in religious context that cross into the realm of terrorist and racial threats against entire communities that beckons further investigation by authorities of the intent of such words. Deliberate targeting of communities based on their origin of birth or race is not only harrassment, it is a hate crime.

Om Namah Sivaya

 

[Aupmanyav]

HLK seems to be a goner. I do not think there is any way one can make him understand.

 

[Stormcry]

HLK seems to be a goner. I do not think there is any way one can make him understand.

There's much difference between Aryas/Hindus & Mlecchas . You both can't understand it or probably don't want to understand it .

Every hindu has a gotra of seven rishis . So what is the gotra of Mlecchas ? Adam

So on what scriptural basis , Iskcon gives them dvijahood . By just wearing thread and undergoing rituals doesn't make someone a dvija . He should be born in vedic/Hindu families. After doing many virtues , jiva gets birth in bramhan , kshatriya & Vaishya varna . Birth isn't an accident. It is a law of karma... Virtues from previous lives give birth in hindu varnas while sins give birth in mlecchas and in animal kingdom.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I have adopted a few mlechhas as my sons and daughters. They are now of Bhoota Upamanyu Gotra and Saraswata Brahmins. They might have been but now they are your brothers and sisters. Do not malign them. It is their karma which has made them interested in Hinduism.

 

[krushna]

Hinduism krishnaji, did you saw the video i mentioned in my first post by kripaluji maharaj and the PM i sent't to you.

 

[Ravi500]

Iskcon is a factory in which mlecchas get converted into hindus . But this is against rules of varna dharma. Mlecchas are not allowed to take diksha . As per Shastras , Only bramhanas , Vaishyas & kshatriyas can become dvija .

If shudras and women of hindu society are not allowed for diksha , then What about those castless ? Giving diksha to a mleccha is a sin and Iskcon is just incurring it . That's why you won't find Peace in Iskcon.

Hi Hinduism♥Krishna,

What do you mean by mleccha !

 

[Aupmanyav]

By just wearing thread and undergoing rituals doesn't make someone a dvija. He should be born in vedic/Hindu families. After doing many virtues, jiva gets birth in bramhan, kshatriya & Vaishya varna. Birth isn't an accident. It is a law of karma... Virtues from previous lives give birth in hindu varnas while sins give birth in mlecchas and in animal kingdom.

In the Shanti Prava of Mahabharata Sage Bharadwaja asks Bhrigu Muni to explain how a person can be considered to be a Brahmin? Bhrigu Muni explains very clearly that every single individual is born as a Sudra and it is by his Samskara (good actions) that he becomes a Dvija (twice born) and further if he studies Vedas he is a Vipra (learned person) and ultimately if he is able to comprehend Brahman he becomes Brahmana (Brahmin). Bhrigu Muni never said a son of a Brahmin is a Brahmin. We know that Ravana who was the son of Visrava and grand son of Sage Pulastya was never looked as Brahmin for his heinous deeds.

For a person to be considered a Brahmin he has to posses some qualities like Control over anger and senses, always contemplate on Truth, maintain peace and tranquillity in mind, be modest and humble, ready to help others, thrive for spiritual advancement and consistency in spiritual practice.

There was a Purohit family which lived in a remote village in Kashmir. The father and son were priests in a Shiva temple. Mostly in the village there were growers of saffron flowers. The Purohits son fell in love with the saffron grower's charming daughter.

He was sure that his father would never agree for the alliance. He thought, “What if I tell to my father that the girl is from a Brahmin family”. He led the girl to his house and introduced her to his father, “Pita ji, this is a poor Brahmin's daughter. I want you to accept her as your daughter-in-law.” The girl who did not know anything spoke out instantly, “Arey, you are mistaken I am the daughter of a farmer.”

Brahmin smiled at the girl and said, “My child, it does not matter who your father is by profession, he has taught you the qualities of a Brahmin. A Brahmin never takes refuge in lie and falsehood.” Then turning towards his son and said this young man is not a Brahmin. I feel proud to have you as my daughter-in-law, and that will be only if you have no objection to marry this fellow who is a Non-Brahmin.”
http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritua...ahmin-we-can-be-one-if-we-change-our-attitude

"Shamo damas tapah shaucham, kshāntir ārjavam eva cha;
jnānam vijnānam āstikyam, brahma-karma svabhāva-jam." BG 18.42
(Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, knowledge, wisdom and religiousness - these are the natural qualities of a brāhmin.)

More, if required (e.g., Yudhishthira's answer to Yaksha and other such explanations).

 

[Stormcry]

Hinduism krishnaji, did you saw the video i mentioned in my first post by kripaluji maharaj and the PM i sent't to you.

Yes , I read that PM.

 

[Stormcry]

We know that Ravana who was the son of Visrava and grand son of Sage Pulastya was never looked as Brahmin for his heinous deeds.

Oh really ? You read Mahabharata in English or Sanskrit ? Is it max muller's ?

Ravana's father was a bramhana. So he was a Bramhana by birth . He was master in shastras. However because of the Pride , he did sinful acts . Yet such bramhana remains as Bramhana . He is equally respectful as an ideal Bramhana .

Ram had to perform a yagna / puja because he had killed a brahmin, Ravana. If you consider varna by guna, then why did he had to perform this puja to wipe of his sins of killing bramhana .

If varna is not by Birth , then why sinful bramhana is called as ' bramhabandhu ' though he would act like a Shudra ? Then why killing of Sinful Bramhana is forbidden ? Why shastras don't call them shudra and give allowance to kill bramabandhu ?

 

[Stormcry]

Take a look at Bhagavata Purana :

Lord Krishna says:

vipram krtagasam api naiva druhyata mamakah
ghnantam bahusapantam va namaskuruta nityasah
yathaham praname vipran anukalam samahitah
tatha namata yuyam ca ye 'nyatha me sa danda-bhak

"O My relatives! Do not harm a brahmana, even if he mistreats you!
Even if he is a sinner, you should still bow down to him.
Even I bow down to the brahmanas. Whoever acts otherwise is punishable by Me!"

The Lord further tells Srideva in Srimad Bhagavata (10.86.53):

brahmano janmana sreyan sarvesam praninam iha
tapasa vidyaya tustya kim u mat kalaya yutah

"The brahmana is superior to all living beings by birth, let alone when he is austere, learned, content and devoted to Me."

 

[ShivaFan]

I find it incredible how the OP was suppose to be about happiness and the ideation of Kripalu, and yet even in such theme the "by birth" caste (jati) extremists have to constantly jump in and tell all us Hindus about who is "inferior" by birth and who is "superior" by birth. What fixated madness! Talk about identity crisis, this sort of racism takes the cake. And what an INSULT to the very name of Kripalu.

Kripalu's ashrams and charities gave tirelessly to the "low castes" (sudras) and "untouchables" (dalits) and women of poor means, and the disabled and those victims of natural causes such as earth quakes regardless of background or "birth". Kripalu was a Maharaj of Bhakti Yoga, he embraced all no matter what race, nation, origin, and certainly no matter what caste or no caste, and he made this a theme of his message.

How can this subject matter be so corrupted by such ugly graffiti as "by birth" consciousness?

These are exact quotes from Kripalu:

"Believe all to be superior to oneself and believe oneself to be the most sinful of all."

Do you know where funeral ashes of Kripalu were brought after his passing on November 15th 2013?

To the "mleecha" (according to some extremists) place of America, to the Radha Madhav Dham, in Austin Texas, where his sacred ashes will be permanently established in a special monument. He was constantly open to all who came in touch with him, regardless of caste, creed or country.

In Kashi (Varanasi, India), I was told that anywhere the ashes of a Saint are enshrined in such a manner, that town or village becomes a holy place and all residents who live in or are born there should be respected as blessed.

My understanding is, former President Bush is an often visitor, that Lance Armstrong is a resident of Austin TX, perhaps folks like Bush, Armstrong, or for that matter the entire polulation of Austin, or even Texas, should be given respects as blessed by the same "by birth" caste extremists who like to turn every cherry pie into a little blue berry regarding birth fixations. I wouldn't grab the feet of Bush, but perhaps the caste extremists need to follow the traditions and bow down to such.

Regarding Kripalu, I welcome his ashes to America. You can read about some of his charity work on the internet, I do not know a lot about him but such work is impressive.

Om Namah Sivaya

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram Hinduism♥Krishna ji

Pranam , Krushna .....


Iskcon's diksha is a fake .

Iskcon is a factory in which mlecchas get converted into hindus . But this is against rules of varna dharma. Mlecchas are not allowed to take diksha . As per Shastras , Only bramhanas , Vaishyas & kshatriyas can become dvija .

please explain what is the meaning to you of 'dvija' .

If shudras and women of hindu society are not allowed for diksha , then What about those castless ? Giving diksha to a mleccha is a sin and Iskcon is just incurring it . That's why you won't find Peace in Iskcon.

why do you so vhemently attack ISKCON ?

when a MELCCHA takes Diksha he becomes twice born so he is no longer a Melccha .

 

[Stormcry]

please explain what is the meaning to you of 'dvija' .

Pranam ,

The three varnas , Bramhana , Kshatriya & Vaishya , who are permitted to do all 16 Sanskaras . When hindu becomes a dvija hearing the seed of bramhan , the Gayatri Mantra , he gets second birth for spiritual life . It is the starting of his spiritual life till the last 16th Sanskara . According to Shastras , Branhana should become dvija at the age of 4 , kshatriya at the age of 8 & vaishya at the age of 16 . ( Correct me if I am wrong )

when a MELCCHA takes Diksha he becomes twice born so he is no longer a Melccha .

oh ! I didn't know this . Because I am following Hindu-Vedik Dharma & I believe only in Hindu Scriptures. I would like to know which religion you're following

I have read almost all puranas . But there I didn't find even a single verse which states allowance of mleccha to become a Hindu or varna Holder .

However your research will be appreciated here . Please give us scriptural proofs or any incident in puranas wherein mleccha becomes Bramhana-Hindu .


Hari Krishna Hari.....

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

On Salvation and Achieving Happiness:

I often wonder how much 'happiness' one must sacrifice for the sake of being truly 'happy'.

As I read through these posts, again with 'Mleccha this and that' I can't help but share a feeling that recently occurred.

It came as I was trying to walk that fine line between being a 'good Hindu' and a 'true Hindu'. I realise that certain behaviours are expected of me, but just how much leniency do I get with all that?

I have tried towing the Hindu 'hard line', but I just can't anymore, when I became aware of something I had long ago buried for the sake of 'everybody else'.

It happened when I was listening to George Harrison and heard 'Life Itself' (I will post it after). I remember hearing this not long after I first discovered Hinduism and blissed out on every single word. I 'felt' everything and came to the awareness even back then that I was a Hindu Universalist.

I have fought against it....against 'lumping all Gods in the same basket', but this is something controlled by my instinct, This is something I 'know beyond knowing', but I just can't deny it anymore and say these Gods are in any way 'separate', no matter how much people may disagree with me. God is everything! and God is everything to everyone!

Once I freed my heart from this fundamentalist viewpoint, I felt like this huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders spiritually, and I could breathe deeper than I have been able to for a long time.

I have also got over the fact I am not a 'Hindu' and I am a 'Mleccha', but, as Jaya keeps telling me, Siva loves me no matter who/what I am, so I don't care.

Om Namah Shivaya

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

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LIFE ITSELF George Harrison - YouTube