Satan and the Sanctity of Marriage

[Jainarayan]

Do they have to in order to be significant? Seems like the notion of being dependent on a deity is more Abrahamic than pagan: at least the pagans don't expect intervention, it just happens because the gods have wills of their own apart from human needs, whereas your god does it because it's in the plan and "benefits" humans. Though most of the time God just says no apparently.

Yes, for sure. Our gods want us to stand on our own. They'll help us when we're in dire straits but they expect us to stand on our own. And they don't demand our worship and adoration, or that we fear them.

 

[EtuMalku]

Same-sex marriage isn't marriage. It's only a hijacking of the word; a redefinition that doesn't make a new truth. You can call a homosexual union a marriage, but it's still a violation of natural law, and as a sacrament established by God, a valid marriage can only be a union of a man and a woman.

But in the ideological and political sense, gay marriage is geared toward the dismantling of morality and the traditional family. The issue is not just gay marriage itself, but the broader effects to come.

Nonsense . . . "Marriage, also called matrimony or wedlock, is a socially or ritually recognized union or legal contract between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between them, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws"
Marriage did not begin with Christianity and thank God it didn't end with it. Homosexual behavior is rampant in the entire animal Kingdom . . .so it IS natural.
You can say that Same Sex Marriage is not Christian Marriage, but you cannot say it is not a Marriage . . . it is.
There is no evidence that "gay marriage is geared toward the dismantling of morality" . . . that is simply an ignorant and instigating statement.
My suggestion to Catholicism in general, is to clean up your own backyard before complaining about your neighbor's yards.

 

[Jainarayan]

Not yet. But the reality of God and his commandments will be binding on every human soul whether he or she believes during this life or not.

What's he waiting for? I've been with another man for over 19 years. We are healthy, have a home, employment, family and friends. Nineteen years is a long time to be in a sinful lifestyle without punishment.

 

[Iti oj]

Well then maybe it IS a Satanic plot.
Being anti-gay is not homophobic. Phobia indicates extreme dislike or FEAR.
I do not dislike gay people for being gay people and certainly am not afraid.

I didn't say the post was homophobic, just apart of the homophobic agenda, just like im not gay but apart of the gay agenda lol

 

[Iti oj]

What's he waiting for? I've been with another man for over 19 years. We are healthy, have a home, employment, family and friends. Nineteen years is a long time to be in a sinful lifestyle without punishment.

Why do you think you were made mod here? God was punishing you!

 

[muichimotsu]

Nonsense . . . "Marriage, also called matrimony or wedlock, is a socially or ritually recognized union or legal contract between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between them, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws"
Marriage did not begin with Christianity and thank God it didn't end with it. Homosexual behavior is rampant in the entire animal Kingdom . . .so it IS natural.
You can say that Same Sex Marriage is not Christian Marriage, but you cannot say it is not a Marriage . . . it is.
There is no evidence that "gay marriage is geared toward the dismantling of morality" . . . that is simply an ignorant and instigating statement.
My suggestion to Catholicism in general, is to clean up your own backyard before complaining about your neighbor's yards.

I wish I could like this post more than once, because the points made are that spot on, especially the "judge not" principle reflected in the last sentence.

 

[Jainarayan]

Why do you think you were made mod here? God was punishing you!

Touché.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's Satan at work. The world isn't coming to an end, no one is going to force your church to accept homosexuals or conduct gay marriages, and everything will be just fine. Actually, tomorrow is already a better day than today was.

Not yet. But the reality of God and his commandments will be binding on every human soul whether he or she believes during this life or not.

Never again will I be bound and shackled to your god.

 

[Jainarayan]

I wish I could like this post more than once, because the points made are that spot on, especially the "judge not" principle reflected in the last sentence.

I got yer back.

 

[Father Heathen]

Remember when the church considered it a satanic plot to suggest that the earth revolved around sun instead of the other way around?

 

[leibowde84]

The father of lies is probably even happier about the Supreme Court’s decision than the all the human same-sex marriage supporters put together. That’s because it’s part of an agenda that is critically important to him, according to Sister Lucia dos Santos of Fatima. She was one of the three children in Portugal to whom Saint Mary appeared, interacting with them in six monthly visits from May to October 1917. Do a search on Our Lady of Fatima if you’re interested in more on that.

My only point here is to throw out something Sister Lucia revealed in correspondence with Cardinal Carlo Caffarra, Archbishop of Bologna, not long before her death in 2005:

"The final battle between the Lord and the reign of Satan will be about marriage and the family. Don’t be afraid, because anyone who works for the sanctity of marriage and the family will always be fought and opposed in every way, because this is the decisive issue."

I disagree. I am a Christian. I have a great relationship with God. I do not care for the Devil, although I have seen no evidence that the Devil exists how you see it. And, I try very hard to live by the (real ... not fabricated) teachings of Jesus. And I've gotta say, I think Jesus is proud of the US today. Btw, we are talking about civil or legal marriage. No church is under any requirement to recognize any same sex marriage. So I fail to see how religious rights are even a concern.

 

[Iti oj]

I disagree. I am a Christian. I have a great relationship with God. I do not care for the Devil, although I have seen no evidence that the Devil exists how you see it. And, I try very hard to live by the (real ... not fabricated) teachings of Jesus. And I've gotta say, I think Jesus is proud of the US today. Btw, we are talking about civil or legal marriage. No church is under any requirement to recognize any same sex marriage. So I fail to see how religious rights are even a concern.

furthermore by banning marriage equality its actually an assault of freedom of religion because it forces some one else's faith onto others

 

[Jainarayan]

furthermore by banning marriage equality its actually an assault of freedom of religion because it forces some one else's faith onto others

Yes, it's inherent in the First Amendment that we are also free from religion. That's something that's been consistently upheld by the SCOTUS.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Satan, God, Jesus, the Bible are one's personal beliefs that are not binding on civil law or those of us who do not believe in that God, Satan, Jesus, the Bible.

Say that again!

 

[Forever_Catholic]

Remember when the church considered it a satanic plot to suggest that the earth revolved around sun instead of the other way around?

You meant to say "that the sun revolved around the earth," right? Anyway, this is just one of many anti-Catholic myths. The Catholic Church was involved in and supported scientific research. And the fact is that the Church funded Galileo in his work to prove Copernicus' theory that the earth and other planets of the solar system revolve around the sun (heliocentrism).

He only got into trouble for violating a prohibition of the Church against teaching unproven science. They wanted theories to be proven as fact before being taught, but Galileo couldn't resist. He was never tortured or excommunicated or whatever BS the propaganda might claim.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Marriage, not a civil union, is a blessing In and of itself. No God, Godess, Krishna, Allah, Jesus, or, I dont know, Ordin can define marriage for any other person who does not share their beliefs.

Marriage is in itself a sacred vow betwen two People. No strings attached

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Same-sex marriage isn't marriage. It's only a hijacking of the word; a redefinition that doesn't make a new truth. You can call a homosexual union a marriage, but it's still a violation of natural law, and as a sacrament established by God, a valid marriage can only be a union of a man and a woman.

But in the ideological and political sense, gay marriage is geared toward the dismantling of morality and the traditional family. The issue is not just gay marriage itself, but the broader effects to come.

Marriage is not a chistian word. It is the right for ALL people to have. It is not murder. It is not against the Law.

I agree that marriage is against the Church AND I believe the Church has no right to define marriage for any person especially based on gender.

Like one said here, beliefs are personal. Why does the Church feel they have to meddle in other peoples morals? Its not abortion. Its not the death penalty. It is just a immoral act according to christianity.

Not every one is bound by the laws of thr Church.

My question is, why does the Church feel she has the authority to govern other peoples morals? Its been done for thousands of years. People were killed by it. Now we are doing the killing by word.

Whats up with that?

 

[Baladas]

Well then maybe it IS a Satanic plot.

Right, sounds perfectly logical. No paranoia here.

 

[Awkward Fingers]

Well, it IS a big win for satan, being the lord of love and all..
..Bet that god guy, in who's name everyone seems to spread hate, must be PISSED right now!!.
More loving couples sharing lives together?? That's gotta enrage a god whos against love!!!

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Not yet. But the reality of God and his commandments will be binding on every human soul whether he or she believes during this life or not.

May I ask also, where do you get this mind-set?

It is so negative. When I was with the Church, I understood and agreed only according to the Church that marriage is between man and woman. This is a christian belief and all christians have a right to believe this.

What bothered me about the Church is that they Do (and its in how you posted) as well as in my neighborhood, is they Do make people loose their businesses, Catholic neighbors fuss at me for not going to confession, etc.

The way Some Catholics and protestants express their morals insults the very PEOPLE who believe in morals that differ from yoursm

Marriage is not just something you can dumb down to a civil union for people who arent in your belief. Thats like saying a colored person cant go into a white bathroom.

We have freedom of racial descrimination AND freedom of religion in the states. Every faith should respect People in their choice to be in one union, one love, blessed by God as THEY believe.

You may disagree; but calling their marriage satanic is a whole 'nother story.

Jesus disagreed with a lot of things....and, He welcomed sinners. He went among the dirty. He spoke among the ones who were not literate. He died for them, for 'hrist sakes!

Priests. They even speak respectfully for homosexuals AND they disagree with their "decision" to marry. Thats a fact (personal experience)

Why dont christians follow Christ and Catholics, also, the priests example. As one priest told me, christians are lay priest. Why not act like it?