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Saving van Gogh

skills101

Vicar of Christ
For those who didn't know, the well-known artist van Gogh is known to be insane. If you had the choice, with the treatment pills and methods we have now, would you want to cure him, knowing that all that quality art would most likely leave us?
 

retrorich

SUPER NOT-A-MOD
skills101 said:
For those who didn't know, the well-known artist van Gogh is known to be insane. If you had the choice, with the treatment pills and methods we have now, would you want to cure him, knowing that all that quality art would most likely leave us?
Is it necessary to be insane to create great art?
 

skills101

Vicar of Christ
retrorich said:
Is it necessary to be insane to create great art?
No, but, in my belief, his insanity must have had a part in the such peculiar paintings he drew. One may assume that, if he is cured, that sort of sense of creativity will diminish.
 

retrorich

SUPER NOT-A-MOD
skills101 said:
No, but, in my belief, his insanity must have had a part in the such peculiar paintings he drew. One may assume that, if he is cured, that sort of sense of creativity will diminish.
What do you base that on?
 

skills101

Vicar of Christ
retrorich said:
What do you base that on?
Nothing, really. We can never know that if he was cured, would he would continue painting the way he did. I'm just asking hypothetically, would you if you knew he wouldn't paint anymore?
 

Lintu

Active Member
I would want to cure him if he wanted to be cured. It's not like I'd want to keep him psychologically suffering just so I can have my nice Wheatfield painting on the wall.
 

skills101

Vicar of Christ
Lintu said:
I would want to cure him if he wanted to be cured.
Do you really think he has the liberty to make that kind of decision? Even though it is his life, his mind is still in wonderland. I mean, that's just like giving a wife who has Down syndrome the right to decide whether her husband can go through surgery when he is sick.
 

Lintu

Active Member
I don't know what kind of disorder he had. If he is perfectly happy in wonderland, let him be in wonderland.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Van Gogh was in a dark mental state that eventually lead him to self mutilation and his suiside in 1890. He shot himself in the chest, but didn't die immediately, he managed to wander home and climb into bed, he died nearly two days later.

in a letter written in 1888 he clearly wanted help and felt his art would improve with a more stable mental state.

"As for me, I am rather often uneasy in my mind, because I think that my life has not been calm enough; all those bitter disappointments, adversities, changes keep me from developing fully and naturally in my artistic career."

How do you deny someone the chance to live?

wa:do
 

Lintu

Active Member
Oh, okay. Well, if he was distressed by his mental anguish, then by all means, I would help him. I didn't know the circumstances of his emotional state.
 

Pah

Uber all member
skills101 said:
For those who didn't know, the well-known artist van Gogh is known to be insane. If you had the choice, with the treatment pills and methods we have now, would you want to cure him, knowing that all that quality art would most likely leave us?

Any artist is such that they have the capability to portray the feelings within them. I see nothing wrong with the artistry of Blake or Piaf or Platt either.

Bob
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
I wouldn`t medicate him unless he expressed desire to be medicated and as skills said he might not be abel to.

I wouldn`t however have given him access to a rifle or any sharp instruments.

:)
 
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