Scared of Nuclear War

[WillEast]

After watching the movie, Day After, I have been consumed by a fear of nuclear war. The fear will pass soon but it is something that I wonder if I should do more about to stop if anything.

Some say there is nothing I can do and I should just not worry at all about it.

What is your take? Can individual citizens do much or should we use our time for doing stuff that we have more control over?

In the age of widespread nukes should a country completely avoid conflicts with other nuclear powers?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think for people like you and me, we have no control over it whatsoever.

For what it's worth, I don't think there will be any concerns for awhile yet.


Nukes are a two way weapon and no sane person would be willing to go the mutual destruction route en masse.

 

[WillEast]

I think for people like you and me, we have no control over it whatsoever.

For what it's worth, I don't think there will be any concerns for awhile yet.


Nukes are a two way weapon and no sane person would be willing to go the mutual destruction route en masse.

Thank-you. At the moment I am consumed by this fear. It makes me wonder whether a country should ever use military force since it may lead to nuclear war.

By the way I do have a recent interest in Buddhism after leaving religion. Do you have any suggested readings on buddhism? What type of meditation do buddhists practice?

 

[F1fan]

After watching the movie, Day After, I have been consumed by a fear of nuclear war. The fear will pass soon but it is something that I wonder if I should do more about to stop if anything.

Some say there is nothing I can do and I should just not worry at all about it.

What is your take? Can individual citizens do much or should we use our time for doing stuff that we have more control over?

In the age of widespread nukes should a country completely avoid conflicts with other nuclear powers?

Wow, did you write this back in 1984 and it just now posted?

 

[F1fan]

Seriously, we went through this same scare back in the 80's. At that time we were much closer to war than today. And there was no internet to really get other ideas from people like in these forums. We read books. I read Hal Lindsey's The Late Great planet Earth which was his Christian interpretation of the Bible and prediction that war would be coming soon in the late 70's. I was young a naive and bought into much of his crap. I didn't realize Christians have all sorts of claims and beliefs about the future that are total nonsense. I'm wiser now, and better informed.

As far as nuclear war, it benefits no one to launch. Look up the many incidents that have come close there being a nuclear war, but cooler heads prevailed. We have been very close many times, usually due to mistaken threats. the classic movie War Games was actually based on real scenarios.

I think fear of nuclear war is more probable for the young who have their whole lives ahead of them. Older folks might be more accepting of the threat.

 

[Brickjectivity]

After watching the movie, Day After, I have been consumed by a fear of nuclear war. The fear will pass soon but it is something that I wonder if I should do more about to stop if anything.

Some say there is nothing I can do and I should just not worry at all about it.

What is your take? Can individual citizens do much or should we use our time for doing stuff that we have more control over?

In the age of widespread nukes should a country completely avoid conflicts with other nuclear powers?

Make sure you review real information. Day After may not reflect reality. It is a science fiction film. There are some steps you can take. For example there is advice to follow should a bomb strike somewhere within several miles of you. It is not an instant kill nor does it guarantee a terrible future for you. It does destroy cities, infrastructure and electronics. It doesn't destroy all life, and the land does recover.

 

[John D. Brey]

Nukes are a two way weapon and no sane person would be willing to go the mutual destruction route en masse.

You probably haven't read Barbara Tuchman's, The March of Folly. Idea being that it's sheer folly to believe human beings act rationally at all times and under all circumstances. Was Putin's invasion of Ukraine rational? Is Ukraine's belief that they can win a decisive victory over Russia rational? Is Biden's belief that we can engage Russia in a proxy war ---since they surely won't nuke us ----really rational?

I think WillEast's fear is as rational as it gets.



John

 

[Stevicus]

After watching the movie, Day After, I have been consumed by a fear of nuclear war. The fear will pass soon but it is something that I wonder if I should do more about to stop if anything.

Some say there is nothing I can do and I should just not worry at all about it.

What is your take? Can individual citizens do much or should we use our time for doing stuff that we have more control over?

In the age of widespread nukes should a country completely avoid conflicts with other nuclear powers?

I remember when The Day After was broadcast on TV for the first time back in 1983. Although I had dreams about nuclear war even before then.

There really isn't much anyone can do about it, except for those who hold the political power and influence. I used to worry about when I was younger, but after a certain point, I stopped worrying.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I think for people like you and me, we have no control over it whatsoever.

For what it's worth, I don't think there will be any concerns for awhile yet.


Nukes are a two way weapon and no sane person would be willing to go the mutual destruction route en masse.

However, I have to point out that far too many of the people who we elect as (or who declare themselves as) our "leaders" are not often quite so sane as you might desire.

(Think back to Donald Trump boasting to Kim, "my button is bigger." Megalomaniacs aren't often terribly well-grounded.)

 

[F1fan]

I remember when The Day After was broadcast on TV for the first time back in 1983. Although I had dreams about nuclear war even before then.

I was living in Lawrence, KS when that broadcast. My local grocery store was used in a scene. The whole town was tuned in. Lawrence was like a ghost town that night.

There really isn't much anyone can do about it, except for those who hold the political power and influence. I used to worry about when I was younger, but after a certain point, I stopped worrying.

The only thing we can do as citizens is vote for sane leaders, and hope other nations follow suit.

 

[John D. Brey]

The only thing we can do as citizens is vote for sane leaders, and hope other nations follow suit.

Is thinking that will work sane?



John

 

[Quintessence]

Focus on what gives you hope, or your guiding star; that which brings joy and beauty and meaning.

Keep that set in your sights now and converge your attention upon your guiding star.

Let all else fall away.

 

[Shaul]

Consider why someone would produce materials calculated and designed to engender fear in you. Seek out additional factual knowledge on the topic. The more you know the less unwarranted fear you will have and the more ability to lessen fear for others and participate in shaping sound policies. Apply critical thinking to separate the subject wheat from the chaff.

 

[Nimos]

After watching the movie, Day After, I have been consumed by a fear of nuclear war. The fear will pass soon but it is something that I wonder if I should do more about to stop if anything.

Some say there is nothing I can do and I should just not worry at all about it.

What is your take? Can individual citizens do much or should we use our time for doing stuff that we have more control over?

In the age of widespread nukes should a country completely avoid conflicts with other nuclear powers?

If it's a full-out nuclear war, I don't think there is anything you can really do as the radiation would get everywhere most likely, and personally, I would prefer just getting blown up rather than having to deal with the consequence of radiation poison as that doesn't sound too pleasant.

Then people say you can eat iodine, but from what I know it is not very effective, if at all on older people above 30-40 or so if I recall correctly. (But better double check that )

 

[F1fan]

Is thinking that will work sane?



John

The alternative surely isn't. Do you have any better advice?

 

[WillEast]

Thank-you all for your kind words. This fear of mine will pass in time but the threat of nuclear war will not. There are some who say just to not worry about it since we have no control over the situation. This may be true but if it is not the lessons will be hard. Perhaps the citizens of the world need to be more engaged in the actions of our governments and military.

If it's a full-out nuclear war, I don't think there is anything you can really do as the radiation would get everywhere most likely, and personally, I would prefer just getting blown up rather than having to deal with the consequence of radiation poison as that doesn't sound too pleasant.

Then people say you can eat iodine, but from what I know it is not very effective, if at all on older people above 30-40 or so if I recall correctly. (But better double check that )

Yeah I don't think an iodine pill will do much for radiation poisoning.

 

[Nimos]

Thank-you all for your kind words. This fear of mine will pass in time but the threat of nuclear war will not. There are some who say just to not worry about it since we have no control over the situation. This may be true but if it is not the lessons will be hard. Perhaps the citizens of the world need to be more engaged in the actions of our governments and military.

Yeah I don't think an iodine pill will do much for radiation poisoning.

You can always watch the TV series Chernobyl. Then I think you will prefer getting blown up as well

But honestly I think there are other things a lot more valid to worry about. Such as being in a car accident, getting sick, getting hit by a meteor, natural disasters, stuff in our food, cloth, beatify products, pandemics etc. Nuclear war seems extremely unlikely as it would kill everyone and I don't think anyone is particularly interested in that. Whereas the things I mentioned are in many cases hidden dangers which are not easy to deal with.

 

[rational experiences]

Depends on human mans over conscious status.

Theists of science have a God complex.

Owners of gods power in life exert their God complex.

Nuclear. Is exact advice.

Minus one said men owning a God complex said had invented and created life on earth. So they believe it's a holy act to be as God was. End of all life now.

The evil god.

It's why Rome taught the conscious reasons why no man is God. As man's head mind had been consciously sacrificed. By his own technology based on star mass earth hit. Past.

Therefore men claim I can nuke one country yet survive myself. Is the first thought of all men in power.

So all one nation countries feel threatened.

We are conscious. We can communicate and reason. Yet the human mind is historically owner of its worst theistic beliefs ever.

The non human or earth life state beliefs science only used.

Therefore to teach rationale and healing. The totality of reason effect is our families subject.

Question...Were we meant not to be who've we become?

The answer is yes. We own the evidence already.

To waylay crisis before it came by humans self experience and teachings.

The same has to recur. As it was effectually proven before.

Is the aware status human family lives now. Why we fight for the right to be heard and not told you own no self rights and just be ordered.

As to order came about by scientific theisms itself. Man's mind conditions only. So we strive not to become just robotic ourselves by thoughts we assert is to act like machines do.

Without compassion or care for family. Humanity.

Every man in adult biology is a father. And we are all his children. Try to remember that known human reality is first.

 

[WillEast]

You can always watch the TV series Chernobyl. Then I think you will prefer getting blown up as well

But honestly I think there are other things a lot more valid to worry about. Such as being in a car accident, getting sick, getting hit by a meteor, natural disasters, stuff in our food, cloth, beatify products, pandemics etc. Nuclear war seems extremely unlikely as it would kill everyone and I don't think anyone is particularly interested in that. Whereas the things I mentioned are in many cases hidden dangers which are not easy to deal with.

Yes I agree there are many other things that need to be addressed which is why my mind will soon be concerned with more immediate worries.

 

[Stevicus]

I was living in Lawrence, KS when that broadcast. My local grocery store was used in a scene. The whole town was tuned in. Lawrence was like a ghost town that night.

It was pretty widely discussed on news and talk shows, as I recall. The Reaganites and Republicans were highly critical of it, since they were in quite the warmongering mood at the time. I seem to recall Jerry Falwell criticizing it because the movie didn't show anyone praying during the nuclear attack sequence.

I also recall a lot of private conversations among people talking about "What would you do if there was a nuclear war?" That is, what would you do in the 20-30 minutes you had left before the missiles arrived? I remember having those conversations with people just after that movie came out.

The only thing we can do as citizens is vote for sane leaders, and hope other nations follow suit.

Let's hope so. I keep thinking that there might someday be a technological remedy which could prevent or effectively defend against a nuclear attack to the point where such weapons become unusable. If not, then maybe we can build giant bomb shelters - something like underground cities like Zion in The Matrix.