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School Bullying Tied To Trump Supporters

Skwim

Veteran Member
It's almost an, "of course there is. Why would anyone be surprised?"

"Bullying rates among middle school students in the spring of 2017 were 18 percent higher in localities where voters had favored Donald Trump than in those that had supported Hillary Clinton, according to a study published online today in Educational Researcher, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Educational Research Association. Similarly, student reports of peers being teased or put down because of their race or ethnicity were 9 percent higher in localities favoring the Republican candidate."
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sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
This was a timely thread because I just used it in a thread about what bad people Muslims are because of their beliefs and upbringing.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Victims of bullying need to stand up and fight against bullies, just like how President Donald J. Trump fights back against bullies such as the liberal press, social justice warriors or Hollywood actors, those who do seek to destroy the careers of those whose ideology they disagree.
 
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lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Victims of bullying need to stand up and fight against bullies, just like how President Donald J. Trump fights back against bullies such as the liberal press, social justice warriors or Hollywood actors, those who do seek to destroy the careers of those whose ideology they disagree.

So when Trump does it he's a victim of bullying, but when Hollywood actors do it, they are people seeking to destroy the careers of those who ideology they disagree with?
Hmm...that seems a strange playing field. Did Trump bully Hillary then? Or was it politics?
I'd plump for the latter, but...?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Nothing surprising here. Many Trump supporters are Authoritarian Followers. Authoritarian aggression is part of the authoritarian triad.
(Wiki):
Right-wing authoritarianism was previously split differently into three attitudinal and behavioral clusters which correlate together:[15][16]

  1. Authoritarian submission — a high degree of submissiveness to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
  2. Authoritarian aggression — a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, outgroups and other people that are perceived to be targets according to established authorities.
  3. Conventionalism — a high degree of adherence to the traditions and social norms that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities and a belief that others in one's society should also be required to adhere to these norms.9/quote]
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Victims of bullying need to stand up and fight against bullies, just like how President Donald J. Trump fights back against bullies such as the liberal press, social justice warriors or Hollywood actors, those who do seek to destroy the careers of those whose ideology they disagree.
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Nothing surprising here. Many Trump supporters are Authoritarian Followers. Authoritarian aggression is part of the authoritarian triad.
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ANTIFA are anti-authoritarian,; they go so far as to "bully" people they don't even know .

 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
ANTIFA are anti-authoritarian,; they go so far as to "bully" people they don't even know .
The guy is clearly a jerk, but ANTIFA? Strikes me more as a black bloc or soccer hooligan type troublemaker. Demonstrations these days seem to attract this sort of thrill seeking reprobate.

I'm not aware that "ANTIFA" is an actual organization. Doesn't it consist of anyone who opposes Fascism? Wouldn't the designation include Gandhi, Jesus, Martin Luther King, &c?
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
The guy is clearly a jerk, but ANTIFA? Strikes me more as a black bloc or soccer hooligan type troublemaker. Demonstrations these days seem to attract this sort of thrill seekin'g reprobate.

I'm not aware that "ANTIFA" is an actual organization. Doesn't it consist of anyone who opposes Fascism? Wouldn't the designation include Gandhi, Jesus, Martin Luther King, &c?

"The Antifa movement is a conglomeration of left wing autonomous, militant anti-fascist groups in the United States."

References:
  1. Alcorn, Chauncey (August 15, 2017). "A timeline of major 2017 pro-Trump, anti-Trump clashes before Charlottesville". Mic. Retrieved October 30, 2017. The alt-right demonstrators are frequently confronted by anti-Trump progressive groups, including militant antifa and anarchist factions.
  2. Miller, Michael E. (September 14, 2017). "Antifa: Guardians against fascism or lawless thrill-seekers?". Washington Post. Retrieved October 13, 2017. It was a call to arms for militant anti-fascists, or "antifa" — and Hines was heeding it.
  3. "An Inside Look at the Antifa Movement". KNTV. September 27, 2017. Retrieved October 13, 2017. NBC Bay Area sat down with several militant Antifa protesters...
  4. Blow, Ashli (September 18, 2017). "Man with swastika armband gets punched in downtown Seattle while yelling at people". KIRO-TV. Retrieved October 13, 2017. Antifa, a militant anti-fascist political movement...
  5. Cummings, Ian; Rice, Glenn E. (September 14, 2017). "Confused about antifa, protests and KC guns laws? Here's the deal". The Kansas City Star. Retrieved October 13, 2017. Antifa ... is a movement of militant leftist activists promoting direct action against white
"The principal feature of antifa groups is their use of direct action"

Reference: Cammeron, Brenna (August 14, 2017). "Antifa: Left-wing militants on the rise". BBC News. Retrieved November 7, 2017.

"They engage in varied protest tactics, which include digital activism, property damage, physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the far-right"

References:
  1. "Meet Antifa's Secret Weapon Against Far-Right Extremists". WIRED. Retrieved 2018-11-13.
  2. Who are the Antifa?", Anti-Defamation League, 2017; retrieved June 12, 2018.
  3. Steakin, William (May 4, 2017). "What is Antifa? Controversial far-left group defends use of violence". AOL. Retrieved August 15, 2017.
  4. Cammeron, Brenna (August 14, 2017). "Antifa: Left-wing militants on the rise". BBC News. Retrieved August 15, 2017.
  5. Kaste, Martin; Siegler, Kirk (June 16, 2017). "Fact Check: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising?". National Public Radio. Retrieved August 15, 2017.
"Conflicts are both online and in real life."

Reference: "Who are the Antifa?", Anti-Defamation League, 2017; retrieved June 12, 2018.

"Activists involved in the movement tend to be anti-capitalists...."

Reference: "What is Antifa?". The Economist. July 29, 2017. Retrieved August 15, 2017

"and they subscribe to a range of ideologies, typically on the left. They included anarchists, socialists and communists along with some liberals and social democrats."

References:
  1. "Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement". CNN. August 17, 2017. Retrieved November 7, 2017.
  2. Illing, Sean (August 25, 2017). "'They have no allegiance to liberal democracy': an expert on antifa explains the group". Vox. Retrieved August 27, 2017.
  3. Lozada, Carlos (September 1, 2017). "The history, theory and contradictions of antifa". The Washington Post. Retrieved September 1, 2017.
  4. Fuller, Thomas; Feuer, Alan; Kovaleski, Serge F. (August 17, 2017). "'Antifa' Grows as Left-Wing Faction Set to, Literally, Fight the Far Right". The New York Times. Retrieved September 10, 2017. [...] the diverse collection of anarchists, communists and socialists has found common cause in opposing right-wing extremists and white supremacists.
  5. Beinhart, Peter (September 6, 2017). "The Rise of the Violent Left". The Atlantic. Retrieved November 7, 2017.
" Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than through electoral means."

Reference: Cammeron, Brenna (August 14, 2017). "Antifa: Left-wing militants on the rise". BBC News. Retrieved November 7, 2017.
 

TheresOnlyNow

The Mind Is Everything. U R What U Think
It's almost an, "of course there is. Why would anyone be surprised?"

"Bullying rates among middle school students in the spring of 2017 were 18 percent higher in localities where voters had favored Donald Trump than in those that had supported Hillary Clinton, according to a study published online today in Educational Researcher, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Educational Research Association. Similarly, student reports of peers being teased or put down because of their race or ethnicity were 9 percent higher in localities favoring the Republican candidate."
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But of course.
Parents are the role model for their children.

When adults behave as they do in opposition to Trump, and the free election process, their children are witness.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
This was a timely thread because I just used it in a thread about what bad people Muslims are because of their beliefs and upbringing.

I'm surprised to see you express this opinion. I do agree that many leaders of Islamic countries are right jerks, but the Muslim people are generally quite nice. And, many of the Muslims who hate the west are that way because of past aggressions from the west. Not that Muslim leaders are Angels, as began with the actions of Abu Bakr, and those who followed him.

Of course the Muslim point of view is that they were conquering their oppressors, to begin with the Byzantines and Persians. The world of the time was full of wars and aggressors. "Isn't It A Bit Like Now"
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Liberal and conservative are relative stances and in the U.S. the press tends to be more liberal than the populace. Compared to the average European they would be conservative, but his usage was correct for the U.S..
On social issues perhaps, although I think even that divide has narrowed with the populace becoming more liberal in the last few years and the media remain where they were.

On economic issues the U.S. media is far to the right of the populace. On issues like universal healthcare and minimum wage polls consistently show wide support while mainstream news media treats these ideas like they are radical.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It's almost an, "of course there is. Why would anyone be surprised?"

"Bullying rates among middle school students in the spring of 2017 were 18 percent higher in localities where voters had favored Donald Trump than in those that had supported Hillary Clinton, according to a study published online today in Educational Researcher, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Educational Research Association. Similarly, student reports of peers being teased or put down because of their race or ethnicity were 9 percent higher in localities favoring the Republican candidate."
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Apparently, no one who wrote that drivel visited this forum or lived in a blue state. :D

It's pretty much the same, the opposition of the popular party gets **** everywhere. So, all they are doing is limiting the sample size to some completely baseless and irrelevant amount to justify their narrative.
 

youknowme

Whatever you want me to be.
Apparently, no one who wrote that drivel visited this forum or lived in a blue state. :D

It's pretty much the same, the opposition of the popular party gets **** everywhere. So, all they are doing is limiting the sample size to some completely baseless and irrelevant amount to justify their narrative.
How did they sample? What was their target population and what was their study population? Did you even look?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's almost an, "of course there is. Why would anyone be surprised?"

"Bullying rates among middle school students in the spring of 2017 were 18 percent higher in localities where voters had favored Donald Trump than in those that had supported Hillary Clinton, according to a study published online today in Educational Researcher, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Educational Research Association. Similarly, student reports of peers being teased or put down because of their race or ethnicity were 9 percent higher in localities favoring the Republican candidate."
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Even back in the 70s/80s when i was as school i knew it was trumps fault ;-)
 

youknowme

Whatever you want me to be.
It's almost an, "of course there is. Why would anyone be surprised?"

"Bullying rates among middle school students in the spring of 2017 were 18 percent higher in localities where voters had favored Donald Trump than in those that had supported Hillary Clinton, according to a study published online today in Educational Researcher, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Educational Research Association. Similarly, student reports of peers being teased or put down because of their race or ethnicity were 9 percent higher in localities favoring the Republican candidate."
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This study has a few issues. Which the researchers, to their credit are very open about, but the press release seems to leave certain details out.

Here is the full study:

SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research
 

PureX

Veteran Member
There has been a spirit of maliciousness going on in American political conservatism for a long time. Trump is just another in a long line of verbal 'bullyboys' that the American right seems to universally support and admire. The question in my mind has always been what's fueling all this bile toward their fellow Americans? Why are they so keen to insult and humiliate fellow citizens, and fellow humans?

I think it's an expression of their own fear and personal loss of autonomy, dignity, and self-respect in a culture that has become only and all about money, under a government that treats it's own people like nothing more than serfs and slaves to a corporate oligarchy that seeks only to subjugate and exploit everyone and every thing for their own profit. In the same way that abused children grow up to become angry, resentful, and abusive adults, the American right has become the personal identification umbrella for many adults who are feeling abused by their own government and culture and want to abuse someone else to try and gain back some sense of their own power. It's why scapegoating others, especially anyone they perceive to be weaker or lesser then themselves has become such a high priority for the new American right. They watched and hooted their pleasure and agreement every time Bill O'Rielly verbally humilited some guest he'd labeled a "liberal" on his show, regardless of the ceapness of his tactics, his ignorance of the facts, or the actual cultural/political affiliation of the 'guest'. He was the favorite verbal gladiator of the American right for a long time. And there were and still are many others. It's also the reason the American right is so obsessed with their loathing of "political correctness". Which is in reality any instance where their vitriol and bile and bullying toward their fellow citizens is being publicly exposed for what it is, and called into ethical and moral question.

As the corporations have gotten better and better at turning us all into their 'abused children', those among us feeling that abuse most keenly, and not wanting to face the truth of their humiliation, are seeking to abuse and humiliate others, to get back some sense of their own power and self-worth. And the republican party, the party most aligned with the oligarchy of abusers, have realized that they can use that bile and desire to bully others to their own advantage, just as the radio and TV networks have also realized they could cater to it to gain many loyal viewers and listeners. So that now we have a whole industrial strength conglomerate feeding off of, and feeding into this desire to abuse and humiliate those they label as being of lesser value. We have become a culture of bullies and bullying. And Trump is the current mascot for it, riding that wave of fear, anger, resentment, and bile in the hearts of those who are being subjugated and abused, but are too confused and frighted to actually identify and fight back against their real abusers. And of course he's doing it, like all the other people riding that self-propelled wave of bile and abuse, for his own personal advantage.
 
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