School, NYPD 'cannot guarantee Jewish students' safety - Columbia rabbi tells Jewish students to leave Campus

[Heyo]

It's not an excuse. You cannot force a conversation with someone who doesn't care for it and still be called polite. If we were in real life at a party, and someone was following you around trying to engage you after you told them to get lost, it would be harassment.

Bad analogy. You aren't having a chat with some friends, and @Revoltingest isn't trying to disrupt that chat.
You are posting your opinion to the world and demand "no backtalk".
That is what is called "controlling the narrative". That is what politician try to do when they want to cancel protests. It is what Rabbi Buechler tried to force by insinuating that the protests may lead to attacks on Jewish Students. (At least it may have to do with that, as anti-Semitic assaults are a real danger in such a radicalized environment.)
My concern is that increased radicalization may lead to collateral damage - i.e. censorship in the forum and in some countries.

 

[Heyo]

That is horse**** and you know it. I copied it directly from your post that was edited 25 minutes ago.

Been addressed in post #138.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I have no idea what "goth calls" means. You altered the text so that it appeared to say something that I didn't say. You need to go back to that post and edit it so that it does not attribute to me something I never said.

No one altered your text. @Shadow Wolf quoted your typo before you corrected it. Your original post before the edit was...

Absolutely. "Death to the Jews" and "Intifada" are goth calls for genocide. "We are Hamas" is promotion of a known terrorist group.

You have since corrected "goth" to "both."

 

[metis]

Unnecessary war crimes. It was murderous bloodlust and and a wicked evil curiousity. It was a heinous blow to an already defeated enemy who was starting to surrender.

I agree, even though at that time Americans very much celebrated.

When people or countries are attacked, the "fight or flee reflex" kicks in, thus people and countries will fight if they have to. Israel was and frequently has been in that same exact paradigm many times! Realistically, they had and have no choice but to fight back to stop the assaults and the frequent barrage of missiles aimed at killing and destruction. Unless you are a pacifist, I would suggest you would likely do the same if your family, your town, your house, were under such assault.

To allow Hamas to still rule in Gaza would only invite more attacks, more bloodshed, more destruction, etc. Thus "the enemy" is not defeated. They still are attacking with only some surrendering.

So why blame Israel and not Hamas? Why can't they supposedly not stop the fighting? Didn't they commit "murderous bloodlust and wicked evil"? So, Israel cannot defend itself? Why can't Hamas commit to peace negotiations or just surrender to save their own people?

 

[Lyndon]

Anyone that supports what Israel has done to Gaza needs to have their head examined, they don't appear to have a shred of common human decency

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Been addressed in post #138.

It didn't address the bs accusation made against me. Accusing me of changing a post in such a way? I'm not even sure if "lapse in judgement" covers that one.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Anyone that supports what Israel has done to Gaza needs to have their head examined, they don't appear to have a shred of common human decency

Would you say the same about those to support what was done on 10/7?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I agree, even though at that time Americans very much celebrated.

It wasn't universal, not even in the military.

When people or countries are attacked, the "fight or flee reflex" kicks in, thus people and countries will fight if they have to. Israel was and frequently has been in that same exact paradigm many times!

They have put themselves into that position. We didn't get to today without Israel's ceaseless encroachment into Gaza and the West Bank. Israel was even offered a normalized relationship if they acknowledged a Palestinian state that went back to the UN boarders decided in '47 but Israel wouldn't have it.
You do have to remember prior to that it was Palestinian land and a century later Israel has not stopped taking land from them. Anywhere we look that starts fights and leads to wars.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Would you say the same about those to support what was done on 10/7?

Who here supports that?

 

[Heyo]

It didn't address the bs accusation made against me. Accusing me of changing a post in such a way? I'm not even sure if "lapse in judgement" covers that one.

I attribute it, at least in part, to the frenzy people have whipped themselves into. The "I am right, and you are wrong" mentality transfers from the subject of the debate to tangential matters. @IndigoChild5559 wouldn't admit to being wrong in any case, even it was just a typo, in conversation with you. Radicalization will do that to people.

 

[Lyndon]

Would you say the same about those to support what was done on 10/7?

What was done on Oct 7 was bad but no where near as inhuman as what has been done in response, given that half of what happened on Oct 7 is Israeli lies and propaganda

 

[IndigoChild5559]

No one altered your text. @Shadow Wolf quoted your typo before you corrected it. Your original post before the edit was...

You have since corrected "goth" to "both."

Correct. I made a mistake. I was wrong. I apologized for it, explained that I meant both, and then went back and corrected the typo in the post in question. What more do you expect from me?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Bad analogy. You aren't having a chat with some friends, and @Revoltingest isn't trying to disrupt that chat.

Wrong. Being in a forum very much is similar to having a conversation at a party, meaning that many are present and part of various discussions.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

That is horse**** and you know it. I copied it directly from your post that was edited 25 minutes ago.

Correct. I was wrong. I apologized earlier, and am fine with apologizing again. I explained that it was a typo, that goth was meant to be both, and then I went and correct the post in question so that further misunderstandings would not happen. I don't see where I can do more than that.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

What was done on Oct 7 was bad but no where near as inhuman as what has been done in response, given that half of what happened on Oct 7 is Israeli lies and propaganda

Just to be clear: was that a yes or a no?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

What was done on Oct 7 was bad but no where near as inhuman as what has been done in response, given that half of what happened on Oct 7 is Israeli lies and propaganda

Seriously? On 10/7, Hamas baked babies in ovens, beheaded people, raped women and children, chained mothers together with their children and set them on fire... It wasn't just killing people, it was done with the idea to cause maximum suffering. Nothing about what is happening in Gaza compares to this sadism.

 

[Lyndon]

Seriously? On 10/7, Hamas baked babies in ovens, beheaded people, raped women and children, chained mothers together with their children and set them on fire... It wasn't just killing people, it was done with the idea to cause maximum suffering. Nothing about what is happening in Gaza compares to this sadism.

all lies

 

[IndigoChild5559]

all lies

You are intent on deceiving yourself if you think Al Jazeera is a reliable, unbiased source. I can't really work with that. Best to move on.

 

[Heyo]

Wrong. Being in a forum very much is similar to having a conversation at a party, meaning that many are present and part of various discussions.

You forget the nature of the medium. A conversation at a party is momentary and only a few people can partake if you're not all using megaphones. Your posts stay and can be read by hundreds of people. That is not a party conversation, it is more like an article in a newspaper (where other authors with differing opinions may also publish).

 

[SalixIncendium]

Correct. I made a mistake. I was wrong. I apologized for it, explained that I meant both, and then went back and corrected the typo in the post in question. What more do you expect from me?

Does $500 and a year's worth of free pizza sound reasonable?