ecco
Veteran Member
You used 162 words, I responded with an appropriate one word.
Of course, I could have replied with yadda, yadda, yadda, but you got the point.
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Science and atheism inconsistent?
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Of course, I could have replied with yadda, yadda, yadda, but you got the point.
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Truly Enlightened
Well-Known Member
Your previous description of those that believe differently than you as a cult is very revealing of your hostile agenda.
gnostic
The Lost One
I don’t see how atheism is linked to science any more than theism, deism, pantheism, dharmic religions, mysticism, Wicca, spiritualism, etc, have to do with science.
None of the -ism of religions, philosophies or worldview are scientific, none of them can be tested through the scientific method.
As I said before, atheism only questions the validity of the existence of a deity or deities, and nothing else. And it doesn’t require science for any atheist to say “I don’t believe in god”.
Atheism have nothing to do with science, with morality or with politics.
For anyone to confuse science and atheism, only demonstrated that person’s bias and ignorance of what is science and what is atheism.
None of the -ism of religions, philosophies or worldview are scientific, none of them can be tested through the scientific method.
As I said before, atheism only questions the validity of the existence of a deity or deities, and nothing else. And it doesn’t require science for any atheist to say “I don’t believe in god”.
Atheism have nothing to do with science, with morality or with politics.
For anyone to confuse science and atheism, only demonstrated that person’s bias and ignorance of what is science and what is atheism.
ecco
Veteran Member
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The bottom line is that Bahai is a very tiny religion that started as an offshoot of Islam. It is unique in the sense that it tries to make the case that many "prominent" religious leaders/entities of the past are just all different Messengers of the one and the same god. That's ludicrous considering that Moses, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, and Mohammed all had very different messages about the nature and teachings of God. Even this village idiot can readily see that.
To justify their beliefs, followers point to the fulfilled prophecies of the most recent Messenger, Bahá'u'lláh. However, as with other religions, the "prophecies" are so vague as to be meaningless. Followers also point with great pride to the influence Bahá'u'lláh had over world leader of the times. In evidence for this, followers show detailed conversations between world leaders and Bahá'u'lláh. Again, as with similar claims from other religions, it is clear that these stories cannot be based in fact, but are just stories made up by followers to boost the credibility of the leader.
The actual writings attributed to Bahá'u'lláh, are a jumbled mass of mostly incomprehensible text that followers, at least posters in this forum, have great difficulty deciphering.
There is more this village idiot could say, but I'll leave it at that for now.
The bottom line is that Bahai is a very tiny religion that started as an offshoot of Islam. It is unique in the sense that it tries to make the case that many "prominent" religious leaders/entities of the past are just all different Messengers of the one and the same god. That's ludicrous considering that Moses, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, and Mohammed all had very different messages about the nature and teachings of God. Even this village idiot can readily see that.
To justify their beliefs, followers point to the fulfilled prophecies of the most recent Messenger, Bahá'u'lláh. However, as with other religions, the "prophecies" are so vague as to be meaningless. Followers also point with great pride to the influence Bahá'u'lláh had over world leader of the times. In evidence for this, followers show detailed conversations between world leaders and Bahá'u'lláh. Again, as with similar claims from other religions, it is clear that these stories cannot be based in fact, but are just stories made up by followers to boost the credibility of the leader.
The actual writings attributed to Bahá'u'lláh, are a jumbled mass of mostly incomprehensible text that followers, at least posters in this forum, have great difficulty deciphering.
There is more this village idiot could say, but I'll leave it at that for now.
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I do not believe the question was whether atheism could be confused with science. The question was whether atheism is consistent with science. The answer is; yes, atheism is consistent with science.
I respect your view (less the aggressive negative rhetoric), but your behavior in this thread has atrocious, along with your sidekick @Truly Enlightened.
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ecco
Veteran Member
Please show where my behaviour in this thread has been atrocious. You can back up that assertion, can't you?
I'll let TE respond as he sees fit.
charlie sc
Well-Known Member
Oh jeez, oh man, thank god about that!
It’s a good thing we have these blogs to keep all the scientists on their feet.
The thread subject as restated in post #668. The rest is noise.
I respect your view (less the aggressive negative rhetoric), but your behavior in this thread has atrocious, along with your sidekick @Truly Enlightened.
Does not apply to ALL scientists, whether theist, atheist or whatever.
charlie sc
Well-Known Member
What? Blogs don't apply to, "ALL," scientists?
charlie sc
Well-Known Member
What are you talking about?
ecco
Veteran Member
So, that's what you are reduced to - just repeating baseless assertions? That's pretty sad.
charlie sc
Well-Known Member
It is? I never knew this was even applicable or a question that made any sense. Well, it's a good thing we have you to say they aren't inconsistent!
gnostic
The Lost One
But science isn’t a question about existence or nonexistence of god, therefore theism and atheism are both irrelevant to science.
Science is about WHAT we can know and HOW does it work, and with HOW it can be used. And all those questions that must be addressed must be falsifiable and testable.
Neither atheism, nor theism, concerned itself with what is testable through observation and experimentation.
Neither sides can test God, so all of it, is a matter of belief and non-belief - hence all of it, is a matter of opinions.