What good is being fed, cured and living longer without the science of finding inner peace.
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Science has given us this and God has given us what?
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What good is being fed, cured and living longer without the science of finding inner peace.
So, I pondered that for a bit. I reasoned that if the promises of the bible are true, namely, that I will live an eternity in bliss, I'd take that everyday over a keyboard and some medicine that will keep me alive a few more days, months or years.
Science will never keep us alive forever, or end suffering, though in many cases has caused tremendous suffering.
It will of course continue to contribute useful things to the world, but when compared to the promises of the bible, the totality of all of sciences best work, still dwarf to eternal blissful life.
What say you?
I say that the key word in your OP is the one I have taken the liberty of highlighting in red in the quote above.
Whereas without those things, you'll be so content in life? :areyoucra The luxuries that science have given us allow us the time to find "inner peace".
Do you see God as the means to inner peace? Interesting take. Even if I broadened the terms of reference to be 'religion', I would only view it as a possible path. Certainly not the only path.
Enai de a lukal
Well-Known Member
Spoken like someone who has never lived with hunger, disease, or poverty- a fairly insensitive comment. "Inner peace" is a luxury for people with comfortable lives- a luxury most people in the world don't enjoy. You honestly don't think that people all over the world would trade "inner peace" at the drop of a hat for clean water, food, clothing, basic medical care, and all the other things (science has provided) which we generally take for granted?
Would you care a fig about "inner peace" if your child was dying of hunger?
Spoken like someone who has never lived with hunger, disease, or poverty- a fairly insensitive comment. "Inner peace" is a luxury for people with comfortable lives- a luxury most people in the world don't enjoy. You honestly don't think that people all over the world would trade "inner peace" at the drop of a hat for clean water, food, clothing, basic medical care, and all the other things (science has provided) which we generally take for granted?
Yes, we of course need a minimal quantity of the physical necessities before we can begin to consider inner peace. But this has been and can be attained by spiritual people without all the fancies of modern science.
After the minimal, the spiritual science of Self-Realization is more valuable than all the fancies that come with modern science.
I would rather be born into a culture that teaches the science of Self-Realization with a shorter life expectancy than an atheistic society with a longer life expectancy and all the modern fancies.
In my non-dual philosophy, God and creation are not separate. God is pure being-bliss-awareness and is our core. We find bliss by identifying with our core and not our bodies; the science of Self-Realization.
I think you have a good point. If I was given two alternatives: an eternity of bliss in regards to suffering and science being able to prolong someones death, then I would take the first.Well we have all heard the statement in one form or fashion, right?
Science has given us medicine, and even the keypad I am typing on right now.
Where as, what we have been given by believing in God, it is often framed as, myth, fairy tales, wishful thinking, wars, dumbing down of our societies, on and on.
Familiar with everyone? I should hope so?
Some have asked of Christians, "What? Would you rather we drop science altogether and just live on what the bible tells us?"
So, I pondered that for a bit. I reasoned that if the promises of the bible are true, namely, that I will live an eternity in bliss, I'd take that everyday over a keyboard and some medicine that will keep me alive a few more days, months or years.
Science will never keep us alive forever, or end suffering, though in many cases has caused tremendous suffering.
It will of course continue to contribute useful things to the world, but when compared to the promises of the bible, the totality of all of sciences best work, still dwarf to eternal blissful life.
What say you?
However, science and rationalism is what has made society what it is today. Not religion or belief in God.
The study of finding inner peace?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Won't happen. All chemical reactions grind to a halt.
Even the sun will burn out.
As long as you are physical....eternal life will elude you.
That won't happen for billions of years from now. Scientific knowledge is increasing at a seemingly exponential pace. It's mind-boggling to think of where we'll be in 100 years, let alone 500 or 1,000. (That of course is barring some calamity that disrupts civilization.)
Thief
Rogue Theologian
This planet has resources sufficient for 9billion people...so said some scientist.
No....I think humanity was never intended to last forever.
The body was intended to form a unique spirit on each occasion.
Then we die.
If we are allowed eternity.....
Doesn't matter what you personally think about it. If scientific progress is allowed to continue, it will most likely happen.
Contemplative Cat
energy formation
Some people forgo luxery just to find "inner peace" without crutches(without a cushy easy life).
In the real world, it would be hard to forgo any type of luxury to find peace.
In eastern religions there are various practices one can follow.
Contemplative Cat
energy formation
Unless you are traveler, lugging around a fifty bound backpack with a tent.
Some people like to do things right, when generating enlightenment.
Contemplative Cat
energy formation
Enlightenment (Hindu definition) One with God; losing the distinctions between me and pantheist God.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
The difference is science can be proven, where religion cannot, I personally rather stick with what can be proven than what can't.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Including those who believe they shall incur eternal life in Heaven?