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Science, Metaphysics, and "God of the Gaps" Arguments

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McBell

Unbound
it is a fair statement that you have no recourse against
there is no need for recourse because you have merely declared it as true.
Now we all know you cannot substantiate your claim because if you could, you would have long before your cowardice set in.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
there is no need for recourse because you have merely declared it as true.
Now we all know you cannot substantiate your claim because if you could, you would have long before your cowardice set in.
it is self evident....as truth
Someone had to be first.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
it is a fair statement that you have no recourse against
Yes I do. I asked for you to support your claim. You refused to provide any support for your claim, using the excuse that it is "self-evident". Thus, your claim is no longer valid until you support it. Otherwise it is just an unsubstantiated empty claim.
 

McBell

Unbound
it is self evident....as truth
Someone had to be first.
it is not self evident.
Other wise you would have no problems proving it is self evident.
Since you are completely unable to substantiate your "self evident" claim, you have also shown in this very thread that it is in fact not self evident.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
a fool's redirection
rebuttal the statement.....Someone had to be first
Because your claim is unsubstantiated and you refuse to support it, this is all I need to do. You have only provided an empty claim that has not been supported in any way.

Someone didn't have to be first. Something could have been first.
 
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